On Jan 5, 2015, at 10:22 AM, Roman Shaposhnik <ro...@shaposhnik.org> wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 5, 2015 at 10:08 AM, Alan D. Cabrera <l...@toolazydogs.com> wrote: >> >> On Jan 5, 2015, at 9:21 AM, Roman Shaposhnik <ro...@shaposhnik.org> wrote: >> >>> The tracking part is easy, though. What's difficult is the part >>> that would require us to do something with poddlings put >>> on hold. Unless we come up with clear exit criteria for >>> this new state -- I don't think we're solving any real problems >>> here. >> >> There’s no silver bullet here, if a podling cannot whip up a mentor it’s >> because: >> the podling is not popular and should probably be retired anyway, being put >> on >> hold will provide impetus for the podling to seek out a new venue >> there are not enough mentors >> There is no way to magically solve the latter. > > I've always been +1 on adding a feedback question to the poddling reporting > template. I'll do it shortly now that there's more consensus around the idea > compared to when I first proposed it. > > I'm strongly -1 on adding yet another state to the Incubator state transition > diagram. In my book shifting responsibility to a poddling achieves no useful > purposes and is going to clutter Incubator with half-alive poddlings. But that’s what we have today; we have virtually this state already. All my proposal does is make things more explicit and adds accountability to mentors. > The way I see this: once a poddling gets accepted it becomes an IPMC > responsibility to make sure we empower it to be successful. It is true > that circumstances change, but at that point it still needs to be an IPMC > responsibility to either ponny up required mentorship resources or make > a tough call of retirement. No need to chop the proverbial tail bit-by-bit. This neatly sidesteps my assertion that there is no magical way to solve the problem of the dearth of active mentors. pTLP does not solve it either. Regards, Alan --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
