In Apache there is no such thing as a "Project Leader" The PMC Chair has no more authority over the project than anyone else.
The PMC Chair absolutely does *not* have the power to dissolve the PMC. Only the Board of Directors have that authority and they will only do that at the request of the PMC as a whole (or when there is no active PMC to make such a request). Ross -----Original Message----- From: Andrew Purtell [mailto:andrew.purt...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, December 29, 2014 10:45 AM To: general@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: Incubator report sign-off There are honorary and practical reasons why a project may view the PMC Chair and the project leader as one in the same. Honorary: The community elevated one member as lead and assigned the Chair role out of respect. Practical: The PMC Chair has the power to dissolve the PMC, and is an officer of the Foundation. Nobody else on the project has such power nor indemnification. "Secretary" as a term does not adequately encompass that. > On Dec 29, 2014, at 6:46 AM, Rich Bowen <rbo...@rcbowen.com> wrote: > > > > On 12/23/2014 03:34 PM, sebb wrote: >>> Flex had three great mentors, but to expect them to be the PMC Chair >>> on >>> >graduation would have been problematic. They were great mentors >>> >because they had lots of experience from their work on other Apache >>> >projects, and thus didn’t have time to stay active on a new TLP, >>> >plus they really weren’t users or developers of the technology, >>> >just our coaches on the Apache Way, and thus wouldn’t be good Chair >>> >candidates as they weren’t as invested in the technology. But they >>> >did stick around on at least the private@ lists and continue to do >>> >so even 2 years after graduation where we consult them on occasion. >>> >To require that a mentor be an active contributor limits the kinds >>> >of technologies that can come to Apache to only those who can interest >>> >someone with a lot of spare cycles. >>> > >>> >IMO, the mentors job is to teach, not to lead. >> The job of the PMC chair is almost entirely administrative. >> They are the link between the board and the PMC and their main role >> is to ensure the board gets timely reports and to feed back comments >> from the board. >> >> If a PMC is relying on the chair to drive it forward technically, >> then I think something has gone wrong with the PMC. >> > > Indeed. Big +1 on this. > > There are some projects that I've been watching lately where the PMC chair is > viewed as the project lead, and that has a number of problems that go along > with it. The PMC chair is a secretary, whose job is to file the right > paperwork. A *hugely* important role, but not a technical lead role. > > -- > Rich Bowen - rbo...@rcbowen.com - @rbowen http://apachecon.com/ - > @apachecon > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
