After looking at it for some time, my optimistic outlook on the project would be +0 vote at best.
On the plus side, the community seems to be really active and reasonably diverse. But if feels, like ASF has not yet become a true home for the project. Here's what I'm talking about: as a casual bystander who was trying to view Allura as an ASF project -- I had difficult time. First of all, I couldn't even get to the releases easily enough: https://incubator.apache.org/allura/downloads.html When I managed to get there the first thing that the README instructed me to do is to go to https://forge-allura.apache.org/ What is that? How does it relate to the project? In fact, from the dev list it feels like there may be yet another canonical place for the Allura -- over at sourceforge: http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-allura-dev/201402.mbox/%3C52F80CA5.8060209%40brondsema.net%3E I am not quite sure if penalizing the project with a failed graduation vote is the right thing to do, but the state of the outwards facing project assets doesn't inspire a feel of a strong ASF community in me Just my 2c worth of feedback. Thanks, Roman. On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 11:30 AM, Roman Shaposhnik <r...@apache.org> wrote: > I think what would help to make it into a stronger vote > would be a few more IPMC folks looking > into the status of the Allura community. > > I can volunteer to take a closer look at the community today > to shape up my own opinion and cast the vote appropriately. > > If there's anybody else on IPMC who can do that -- that'll > be appreciated. > > Thanks, > Roman. > > On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 10:48 AM, Rich Bowen <rbo...@rcbowen.com> wrote: >> So where do we go from here? Four +1 votes, but only one of them from >> outside of the project membership. What does it signify? Did we pass? >> >> --Rich >> >> >> >> On 03/07/2014 03:16 PM, Dave Brondsema wrote: >>> >>> Hi everyone, >>> >>> The Apache Allura podling has discussed and voted to graduate from the >>> incubator. We've made two releases, added several PPMC members, have been >>> working with Infra to set up forge-allura.a.o, etc. We would now like the >>> IPMC >>> to vote. >>> >>> Discuss thread: http://markmail.org/message/wdddve3kxceqvgj5 >>> Vote thread: http://markmail.org/message/4g54fcxwb4xxys5l >>> Community results: >>> >>> +1 >>> Roberto Galoppini >>> Wayne Witzel III >>> Cory Johns >>> Dave Brondsema (IPMC) >>> Rich Bowen (IPMC) >>> Simone Gatti >>> Stefano Invernizzi >>> Alvaro del Castillo >>> Jim Jagielski (IPMC) >>> Tim Van Steenburgh >>> >>> +0 >>> (none) >>> >>> -1 >>> (none) >>> >>> >>> Please VOTE below on the graduation of Apache Allura from the >>> Incubator. The graduation resolution is pasted below. >>> The VOTE will be open for at least 72 hours: >>> >>> [ ] +1 Graduate Apache Allura from the Incubator. >>> [ ] +0 Don't care. >>> [ ] -1 Don't graduate Apache Allura from the Incubator because >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> X. Establish the Apache Allura Project >>> >>> WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best >>> interests of the Foundation and consistent with the >>> Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management >>> Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of >>> open-source software, for distribution at no charge to >>> the public, related to a software development infrastructure >>> platform commonly known as a "forge". >>> >>> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management >>> Committee (PMC), to be known as the "Apache Allura Project", >>> be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the >>> Foundation; and be it further >>> >>> RESOLVED, that the Apache Allura Project be and hereby is >>> responsible for the creation and maintenance of software >>> related to a software development infrastructure platform >>> commonly known as a "forge"; and be it further >>> >>> RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache Allura" be >>> and hereby is created, the person holding such office to >>> serve at the direction of the Board of Directors as the chair >>> of the Apache Allura Project, and to have primary responsibility >>> for management of the projects within the scope of >>> responsibility of the Apache Allura Project; and be it further >>> >>> RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and >>> hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the >>> Apache Allura Project: >>> >>> * Tim Van Steenburgh <tvansteenbu...@apache.org> >>> * Wayne Witzel III <wwitz...@apache.org> >>> * Cory Johns <john...@apache.org> >>> * Dave Brondsema <brond...@apache.org> >>> * Roberto Galoppini <galopp...@apache.org> >>> * Alvaro del Castillo <a...@apache.org> >>> * Stefano Invernizzi <stefano.inverni...@apache.org> >>> * Simone Gatti <simonega...@apache.org> >>> * Jim Jagielski <j...@apache.org> >>> >>> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Dave Brondsema >>> be appointed to the office of Vice President, Apache Allura, to >>> serve in accordance with and subject to the direction of the >>> Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the Foundation until >>> death, resignation, retirement, removal or disqualification, >>> or until a successor is appointed; and be it further >>> >>> RESOLVED, that the initial Apache Allura PMC be and hereby is >>> tasked with the creation of a set of bylaws intended to >>> encourage open development and increased participation in the >>> Apache Allura Project; and be it further >>> >>> RESOLVED, that the Apache Allura Project be and hereby >>> is tasked with the migration and rationalization of the Apache >>> Incubator Allura podling; and be it further >>> >>> RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache >>> Incubator Allura podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator >>> Project are hereafter discharged. >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> -- >> Rich Bowen - rbo...@rcbowen.com - @rbowen >> http://apachecon.com/ - @apachecon >> >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
