Ted and Henry: Thanks for the thoughtful replies and indulging my concerns.
+1 (binding) --David On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 12:33 AM, Henry Saputra <henry.sapu...@gmail.com> wrote: > HI David Nalley, > > Thank you for your comment and concern, really appreciate it. > > As Patrick had mentioned in his reply, this is not a persistent problem. > The reminder I sent was about particular topic which could be > interpreted as design or roadmap topic rather than review for a patch. > Rather than reminding an individual or two involved in the discussion, > I decided to send email to dev@ list to show by example the open and > transparent discussions the ASF way. > > Hope this gives some more clarification about the state of the podling > embracing the ASF way. > > - Henry > > On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 9:19 PM, Patrick Wendell <pwend...@gmail.com> wrote: >> Hey All - chiming in as an active Spark committer. >> >>> The part that disturbs me is that after the vote passed in the >>> community, and came to the IPMC a mentor is still having to remind >>> folks that things like strategy and roadmap discussions need to happen >>> on the mailing list. That's a pretty foundational concept in my mind >>> for an Apache project. >> >> Henry gave a reminder on the mailing list not because it's a >> persistent problem but because it never explicitly came up prior to >> this. We use github for review comments and in one case this week >> there was a brief discussion that could be interpreted as roadmap - so >> Henry just gave a reminder not to do that. I can't imagine why any >> project would *want* to use github review comments for long term >> roadmap discussion... it's a terrible medium for that anyways! We have >> a very active developer list and that is where these discussions take >> place. >> >>> The missing account issues are somewhat troubling, but also not really >>> within the purview of the podling to fix either; though I find it odd >>> that people committed to the podling (and many initial committers) >>> haven't asked for their Apache account or needed to use it. >> >> This is because those people have still contributed a lot of code via >> other commiters who merge so it's not an immediate urgency. For >> perspective I am a committer on two other ASF projects but I've never >> personally committed code to either - I do it through the more active >> committers who basically spend all their time merging patches. A few >> of the initial commiters are not currently active on the project; >> they've made major contributions over the last few years of >> development and are committers in recognition of those contributions >> (see above). >> >> Popping up a level. We are happy to have github discussions forward to >> either our dev- list or a reviews- list or something like that (I >> beleive Matei is setting that up now). If IPCM folks want to debate >> whether we should *have* to do that, it seems sensible to fork a >> thread and discuss elsewhere. If IPMC folks want to debate whether >> github should be allowed at all, I also think it's better discussed >> outside of this graduation thread. >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org >> > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
