HI David Nalley, Thank you for your comment and concern, really appreciate it.
As Patrick had mentioned in his reply, this is not a persistent problem. The reminder I sent was about particular topic which could be interpreted as design or roadmap topic rather than review for a patch. Rather than reminding an individual or two involved in the discussion, I decided to send email to dev@ list to show by example the open and transparent discussions the ASF way. Hope this gives some more clarification about the state of the podling embracing the ASF way. - Henry On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 9:19 PM, Patrick Wendell <pwend...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hey All - chiming in as an active Spark committer. > >> The part that disturbs me is that after the vote passed in the >> community, and came to the IPMC a mentor is still having to remind >> folks that things like strategy and roadmap discussions need to happen >> on the mailing list. That's a pretty foundational concept in my mind >> for an Apache project. > > Henry gave a reminder on the mailing list not because it's a > persistent problem but because it never explicitly came up prior to > this. We use github for review comments and in one case this week > there was a brief discussion that could be interpreted as roadmap - so > Henry just gave a reminder not to do that. I can't imagine why any > project would *want* to use github review comments for long term > roadmap discussion... it's a terrible medium for that anyways! We have > a very active developer list and that is where these discussions take > place. > >> The missing account issues are somewhat troubling, but also not really >> within the purview of the podling to fix either; though I find it odd >> that people committed to the podling (and many initial committers) >> haven't asked for their Apache account or needed to use it. > > This is because those people have still contributed a lot of code via > other commiters who merge so it's not an immediate urgency. For > perspective I am a committer on two other ASF projects but I've never > personally committed code to either - I do it through the more active > committers who basically spend all their time merging patches. A few > of the initial commiters are not currently active on the project; > they've made major contributions over the last few years of > development and are committers in recognition of those contributions > (see above). > > Popping up a level. We are happy to have github discussions forward to > either our dev- list or a reviews- list or something like that (I > beleive Matei is setting that up now). If IPCM folks want to debate > whether we should *have* to do that, it seems sensible to fork a > thread and discuss elsewhere. If IPMC folks want to debate whether > github should be allowed at all, I also think it's better discussed > outside of this graduation thread. > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
