Alex, you are constantly mixing up expectations of PMCs and podlings. Plus, since the ASF did not watch how Usergrid was handled when it was external, we (the ASF) has no idea how "meritocratic" it was... in fact, and I'm sorry to say this, the viciousness of all this leads me to wonder just what counted as "merit".
Your definition of what is "better" does not align with everyones, nor does it align with the experience of other successful podlings. As you state, what works for podling A may nor work for podling B (or be "better" for B), and we should not force or coerce or "strongly imply" one or the other. I suggested changing Dave's addition to make it unbiased one way or another. This whole thing started because I made the mistake of assuming, as Champion, that the Usergrid community was more open to taking advantage of the proposal phase to ramp up additional interested developers and leverage their interest, energy and talents. On Sep 25, 2013, at 1:34 PM, Alex Karasulu <akaras...@apache.org> wrote: > On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 11:24 PM, Jim Jagielski <j...@apache.org> wrote: > >> >> On Sep 25, 2013, at 1:01 PM, Dave <snoopd...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Here's what I think we should add: >>> >>> After a proposal is submitted to the incubator but before a vote is >> called >>> the proposing community may choose to add additional committers who ask >> to >>> be committers or may chose to defer adding new committers until the >> podling >>> is in the Incubator and can use the normal ways of ASF meritocracy, >>> nominate new committers, etc. >>> >>> Do people agree with that text? >>> >> >> The "normal ways" stuff needs to be word-smithed. It's an >> obvious "slam" against the way 90-95% of how other proposals >> have been done and implies that somehow that's "wrong". >> >> > There's no "slam" against podlings that have gone through an Incubator > process that was less meritocratic. This is not a failure of podlings > exposed to that process. It's just something we can make better, and more > consistent with our standard meritocratic policies for PMCs. > > >> If you delete everything after "is in the Incubator..." then >> it's a little less biased or leading. >> > > I don't find this biased or leading. It's a genuine reference to mirror > policies that are the norm for PMCs. > > Alex --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
