72 hours have passed with no objections. We'll proceed with the code import.
B. On 26 June 2013 21:11, Upayavira <u...@odoko.co.uk> wrote: > For the sake of the Couch guys, is it possible to separate this out into > a separate thread? It seems that there are some valid concerns here > about that process, but we should let Couch get on with the process as > it is, and concurrently improve it for the future in a different thread? > > Dennis - are you willing to start a new thread expressing your issues > with that document? > > Thanks, Upayavira > > On Wed, Jun 26, 2013, at 08:22 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: >> I don't think I've seen the template before, or it was too long ago and I >> failed to notice at the time. >> >> Noah has explained my concern and added discussion on remedies. (I won't >> be creating a JIRA issue and it appears that others have a better sense >> of what would express what is appropriate. I just saw what was clear to >> me was inappropriate.) >> >> With respect to that checklist, my only lingering concern is that it is >> difficult to know what was actually done, following the instructions as >> given, especially with regard to the headers of files, given how the item >> is worded. >> >> I would definitely change the heading from "Copyright" to "Licensing" >> too. >> >> - Dennis >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Robert Newson [mailto:rnew...@apache.org] >> Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2013 09:36 AM >> To: general@incubator.apache.org; dennis.hamil...@acm.org >> Cc: Noah Slater >> Subject: Re: [IP CLEARANCE] BigCouch >> >> Dennis, >> >> I'm following the instructions I'm given, I don't know if this is the >> place to comment on the process the incubator project has been >> following up to this point. Have I followed it incorrectly? I don't >> know you personally, are you pointing out problems with *this* ip >> clearance thread in particular or are you commenting on the template >> itself? Had you seen the template before today? >> >> B. >> >> >> On 26 June 2013 17:27, Dennis E. Hamilton <dennis.hamil...@acm.org> >> wrote: >> > Under the heading "Copyright" there is an item with text "Check and make >> > sure that the papers that transfer rights to the ASF [have] been received. >> > It is only necessary to transfer rights for the package, the core code, >> > and any new code produced by the project." >> > >> > In the next box it says >> > >> > "Check and make sure that the files have been donated have been updated to >> > reflect the *new* ASF copyright. ... " [emphasis mine]. >> > >> > It is my understanding that an SGA is not a transfer of rights but a grant >> > of license. This language is all wrong, wherever it comes from. It >> > suggests what appears to be a copyright transfer when everything we are >> > told around here is that the ASF neither requires nor does such things. >> > Furthermore, adding ASF copyright notices in the headers for individual >> > files that are otherwise unchanged is very naughty. (Unless, of course, >> > there has indeed been a copyright transfer, and I'm not all that sure >> > about even that case.) >> > >> > - Dennis >> > >> > PS: And, of course, the license grant is about more than the exclusive >> > rights of copyright holders, too. In any case, the non-exclusive licenses >> > granted in SGAs and CLAs are not transfers. (Since "standing" is much in >> > the news today, another way to put it is that the ASF has no power to sue >> > for infringement of copyright in the contributed works, nor any patent >> > infringement related to the use of the contributed works.) >> > >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: Noah Slater [mailto:nsla...@apache.org] >> > Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2013 08:14 AM >> > To: general@incubator.apache.org; dennis.hamil...@acm.org >> > Subject: Re: [IP CLEARANCE] BigCouch >> > >> > Dennis, can you clarify your concerns please? >> > >> > The page you are looking at is generated from a template. Bob has simply >> > filled in the dates as he stepped through the process. >> > >> > Which specific guidelines do you not believe have been followed? >> > >> > Why do you believe that an SGA has not been filed? >> > >> > >> > On 26 June 2013 16:05, Dennis E. Hamilton <dennis.hamil...@acm.org> wrote: >> > >> >> That page talks about transfer of copyright and addition of Apache >> >> copyright notices on the code as imported. Huh? >> >> >> >> Why aren't the guidelines for transfer of cleaned-up contributions under >> >> SGAs being followed, and an SGA being filed that details the contribution? >> >> >> >> - Dennis >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >> From: Noah Slater [mailto:nsla...@apache.org] >> >> Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2013 06:03 AM >> >> To: general@incubator.apache.org >> >> Subject: Re: [IP CLEARANCE] BigCouch >> >> >> >> Woop! Thanks Bob! +1 >> >> >> >> >> >> On 26 June 2013 13:55, Robert Newson <rnew...@apache.org> wrote: >> >> >> >> > Cloudant has donated the source code artifact detailed at [1] to the >> >> > ASF. >> >> > This email is to request lazy consensus from the IPMC for the IP >> >> > clearance of this donation. >> >> > >> >> > B >> >> > >> >> > [1] http://incubator.apache.org/ip-clearance/couchdb-bigcouch.html >> >> > >> >> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org >> >> > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> NS >> >> >> >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org >> >> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> > -- >> > NS >> > >> > >> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org >> > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org >> > >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org >> > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
