Dennis, I'm following the instructions I'm given, I don't know if this is the place to comment on the process the incubator project has been following up to this point. Have I followed it incorrectly? I don't know you personally, are you pointing out problems with *this* ip clearance thread in particular or are you commenting on the template itself? Had you seen the template before today?
B. On 26 June 2013 17:27, Dennis E. Hamilton <dennis.hamil...@acm.org> wrote: > Under the heading "Copyright" there is an item with text "Check and make sure > that the papers that transfer rights to the ASF [have] been received. It is > only necessary to transfer rights for the package, the core code, and any new > code produced by the project." > > In the next box it says > > "Check and make sure that the files have been donated have been updated to > reflect the *new* ASF copyright. ... " [emphasis mine]. > > It is my understanding that an SGA is not a transfer of rights but a grant of > license. This language is all wrong, wherever it comes from. It suggests > what appears to be a copyright transfer when everything we are told around > here is that the ASF neither requires nor does such things. Furthermore, > adding ASF copyright notices in the headers for individual files that are > otherwise unchanged is very naughty. (Unless, of course, there has indeed > been a copyright transfer, and I'm not all that sure about even that case.) > > - Dennis > > PS: And, of course, the license grant is about more than the exclusive rights > of copyright holders, too. In any case, the non-exclusive licenses granted > in SGAs and CLAs are not transfers. (Since "standing" is much in the news > today, another way to put it is that the ASF has no power to sue for > infringement of copyright in the contributed works, nor any patent > infringement related to the use of the contributed works.) > > -----Original Message----- > From: Noah Slater [mailto:nsla...@apache.org] > Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2013 08:14 AM > To: general@incubator.apache.org; dennis.hamil...@acm.org > Subject: Re: [IP CLEARANCE] BigCouch > > Dennis, can you clarify your concerns please? > > The page you are looking at is generated from a template. Bob has simply > filled in the dates as he stepped through the process. > > Which specific guidelines do you not believe have been followed? > > Why do you believe that an SGA has not been filed? > > > On 26 June 2013 16:05, Dennis E. Hamilton <dennis.hamil...@acm.org> wrote: > >> That page talks about transfer of copyright and addition of Apache >> copyright notices on the code as imported. Huh? >> >> Why aren't the guidelines for transfer of cleaned-up contributions under >> SGAs being followed, and an SGA being filed that details the contribution? >> >> - Dennis >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Noah Slater [mailto:nsla...@apache.org] >> Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2013 06:03 AM >> To: general@incubator.apache.org >> Subject: Re: [IP CLEARANCE] BigCouch >> >> Woop! Thanks Bob! +1 >> >> >> On 26 June 2013 13:55, Robert Newson <rnew...@apache.org> wrote: >> >> > Cloudant has donated the source code artifact detailed at [1] to the ASF. >> > This email is to request lazy consensus from the IPMC for the IP >> > clearance of this donation. >> > >> > B >> > >> > [1] http://incubator.apache.org/ip-clearance/couchdb-bigcouch.html >> > >> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org >> > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org >> > >> > >> >> >> -- >> NS >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org >> >> > > > -- > NS > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org