I think that's a question for the Hive PMC. I have some guesses, but it seemd more appropriate to let them speak for themselves. For some history you can take a look at http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/hive-dev/201211.mbox/%3CC648B9DE-2088-465E-8FA1-590D5E192093%40hortonworks.com%3E which is the initial discussion between HCat and Hive. AFAIK none of the Hive PMC are on the IPMC, so you may need to mail private@hive or dev@hive to get their feedback.
Alan. On Feb 23, 2013, at 2:43 AM, Ross Gardler wrote: > Thanks Alan, > > I'm still wondering why the Hive PMC feel mentoring inside the PMC is > appropriate but not the IPMC. > > Please understand I'm not saying I'm for or against the proposal. I'm > trying to understand it so that I can form an opinion as an IPMC member. > > Ross > > Sent from a mobile device, please excuse mistakes and brevity > On 20 Feb 2013 18:22, "Alan Gates" <ga...@hortonworks.com> wrote: > >> The project was named Howl when it was proposed, so the proposal is at >> http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/HowlProposal >> >> Alan. >> >> On Feb 20, 2013, at 2:31 AM, Ross Gardler wrote: >> >>> I'm brought to this thread byt he board report but my response here is as >>> an IPMC member. My comment on the board report is quite different, it is >>> "I've read the thread on general@ and feel that the IPMC should make a >>> clear recommendation to the board in this and similar cases. The IPMC >>> discussion seems to be healthy and productive." >>> >>> So, as a an IPMC member I have a few open questions [inline]... >>> >>> >>> On 11 February 2013 18:20, Alan Gates <ga...@hortonworks.com> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> >>> Also, it has been agreed that each HCatalog committer will be provided >> with >>>> a mentor from the Hive community to help him/her learn the rest of Hive, >>>> with the goal of becoming a committer on Hive within six months. The >>>> submodule state is transitionary, not an end point. >>>> >>>> >>> Why was this"mentoring" not done as part of the incubation process since >>> building the right community structure for graduation (along with IP >>> clearance) is the main role of the incubation process? Was Hive the >>> sponsoring project for this proposal? If not why not? >>> >>> I ask these questions because HCatlog is making a very strong case that >> any >>> other option for graduation is not appropriate. At the same time we are >>> being told by the Hive PMC that the mentoring of the committers is >>> incomplete since they have insufficient merit within Hive to be trusted >> to >>> be full members of that project. >>> >>> it also concerns me that in this same month the IPMC board report says >> "The >>> main concern of the incubator continues to be the quality and reliability >>> of supervision... The supply of mentoring seems, still, to exceed >> demand." >>> >>> Why is it that the Hive PMC feels it is able to provide "mentoring" >> within >>> their own PMC through the creation of what some people see as >>> an umbrella project, but not here in the IPMC? >>> >>> Finally, why can't I find the HCatalog proposal in my mail client, >> markmail >>> or the wiki (not had coffee yet, feel free to call me [insert adjective]) >>> >>> Ross >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
