On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 6:05 PM, Masanz, James J. <masanz.ja...@mayo.edu> wrote:
>
> Many of the models are derived from data that is not publicly released. But 
> those *models* have been contributed to Apache cTAKES.
>
> This is the primary mechanism for distribution of these models.

This discussion has come up before with SpamAssassin and OpenNLP.

The exception for SpamAssassin, as I have understood it, is that there
is a place where all members of the community have access to the
source texts behind the models. At OpenNLP, again according to my
memory, the solution is to treat the models as not part of the release
at all.

I fear that cTakes needs to have an interaction with LEGAL to adopt
the SpamAssassin model, since, from a strict constructionist
perspective, the source of the models is precisely what you cannot
release.


>
> I said "many" above because at least one of the models is derived from 
> Wikipedia data (which was discussed under LEGAL-154)
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-154
>
> As far as the size, I will send infrastructure@ an email (with a link to this 
> thread) to let them know about the size.
>
> Thanks for the questions, the more input we get, the better.
>
> Regards,
> James Masanz
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: general-return-39339-Masanz.James=mayo....@incubator.apache.org
>> [mailto:general-return-39339-Masanz.James=mayo....@incubator.apache.org]
>> On Behalf Of Chris Douglas
>> Sent: Monday, January 21, 2013 4:36 PM
>> To: general@incubator.apache.org
>> Subject: Re: [VOTE] Apache cTAKES 3.0.0-incubating RC5 release
>>
>> Infra asks for a "heads up" for large artifacts:
>> http://s.apache.org/5vz While these aren't over the limit, it might be
>> worth pinging them. To be clear, these models were trained on external
>> data, so they can't be regenerated? Are they packaged here for
>> convenience, or is this the primary mechanism to distribute the models?
>> The models were donated to the project, so we can redistribute them under
>> the AL without being bound by any restrictions attached to the original
>> data? Apologies if this was already covered in a previous discussion, but
>> I looked up the incubator proposal and didn't see it explicitly mentioned.
>>
>> I also dug up a reference to Roy's email before realizing that Matt had
>> already found it. My understanding matches his; we can't usually package
>> jars, even category-A and ASF projects. Thanks for sticking with this. The
>> first release can be a fair amount of work, but it paves the road for the
>> rest of life at the ASF. -C
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 6:39 AM, Coarr, Matt <mco...@mitre.org> wrote:
>> > Hi, we just need one more Incubator PMC vote for cTAKES version 3.0.
>> >
>> > Matt
>> >
>> >
>> > ---
>> > From: <Chen>, Pei <pei.c...@childrens.harvard.edu>
>> > Subject: Collecting IPMC votes
>> >
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > This is a call for a vote on releasing the following candidate as
>> > Apache cTAKES 3.0.0-incubating.
>> > This will be our first release.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > A vote is also held on the developer mailing list:
>> > http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-ctakes-dev/201301.m
>> > box/b
>> > rowser
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > For more detailed information on the changes/release notes, please
>> visit:
>> >
>> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/ReleaseNote.jspa?projectId=12313
>> > 621&v
>> > ersion=12322969
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > The release was made using the cTAKES release process documented here:
>> > http://incubator.apache.org/ctakes/ctakes-release-guide.html
>> >
>> > The candidate is available at:
>> >
>> > http://people.apache.org/~chenpei/ctakes-3.0.0-incubating/rc5/target/a
>> > pache
>> > -ctakes-3.0.0-incubating-bin.tar.gz
>> > /.zip
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > The tag to be voted on:
>> >
>> > http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/ctakes/tags/ctakes-3.0.0-inc
>> > ubati
>> > ng-rc5/
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > The MD5 checksum of the tarball can be found at:
>> >
>> > http://people.apache.org/~chenpei/ctakes-3.0.0-incubating/rc5/target/a
>> > pache
>> > -ctakes-3.0.0-incubating-bin.tar.gz.md5
>> > /.zip.md5
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > The signature of the tarball can be found at:
>> >
>> > http://people.apache.org/~chenpei/ctakes-3.0.0-incubating/rc5/target/a
>> > pache -ctakes-3.0.0-incubating-bin.tar.gz.asc
>> > /.zip.asc
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Apache cTAKES' KEYS file, containing the PGP keys used to sign the
>> release:
>> >
>> > http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/ctakes/tags/ctakes-3.0.0-inc
>> > ubati
>> > ng-rc5/KEYS
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Please vote on releasing these packages as Apache cTAKES 3.0.0-
>> incubating.
>> > The vote is open
>> > for at least the next 72 hours.
>> >
>> > Only votes from Incubator PMC are binding, but folks are welcome to
>> > check the release candidate and voice their approval or disapproval.
>> > The vote passes if at least three binding +1 votes are cast.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > [ ] +1 Release the packages as Apache cTAKES 3.0.0-incubating [ ] -1 Do
>> > not release the packages
>> > because...
>> >
>> > Thanks!
>> >
>> > Pei
>> >
>> > P.S. Here is my +1.
>> >
>>
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