Matt, can you reference the policy that category A deps can't be
sitting in svn in binary? Of course, these folks can learn to use ivy,
maven, or maven-ant-tasks to reduce the need for this, but I'd like to
be clear on whether this is required behavior or not. I thought that a
source package could incorporate binaries of at least 'A'
dependencies, but I am happy to be corrected. And svn is yet another
question.

It's common practice to pin to a defined version of a dependency and
not track it willy-nilly, so 'evolve or change' is not the issue here.

On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 1:47 PM, Matt Franklin <m.ben.frank...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 12:16 PM, Masanz, James J.
> <masanz.ja...@mayo.edu> wrote:
>>
>> Regarding the comment about compiled jars in the source tree:
>>
>> The following jars, even though they are under src directories, contain 
>> resources (models), not Java classes.
>>
>> conll-2009-dev-shift-pop.jar
>> dummy.dep.mod.jar
>> mayo-dep.jar
>> wordnet-3.0-lemma-data.jar
>> dummy.srl.mod.jar
>> en_srl_ontonotes.jar
>> mayo-srl.jar
>> clearparser_models.jar
>>
>> degree_of/model.jar
>> em_pair/model.jar
>> modifier_extractor/model.jar
>>
>> Are there other jars you were referring to?
>
> ./ctakes-assertion/lib/jcarafe-core_2.9.1-0.9.8.3.RC4.jar
> ./ctakes-assertion/lib/jcarafe-ext_2.9.1-0.9.8.3.RC4.jar
> ./ctakes-assertion/lib/med-facts-i2b2-1.2-SNAPSHOT.jar
> ./ctakes-assertion/lib/med-facts-zoner-1.1.jar
> ./ctakes-constituency-parser/lib/libsvm-2.91.jar
> ./ctakes-coreference/lib/commons-io-2.1.jar
> ./ctakes-coreference/lib/commons-lang3-3.0.1.jar
> ./ctakes-coreference/lib/Jama-1.0.2.jar
> ./ctakes-coreference/lib/libsvm-2.91.jar
> ./ctakes-dependency-parser/lib/args4j-2.0.16.jar
> ./ctakes-dependency-parser/lib/clearparser-0.33.jar
> ./ctakes-dependency-parser/lib/cleartk-util-0.8.1.jar
> ./ctakes-dependency-parser/lib/commons-io-2.0.1.jar
> ./ctakes-dependency-parser/lib/commons-lang-2.4.jar
> ./ctakes-dependency-parser/lib/commons-logging-1.1.1.jar
> ./ctakes-dependency-parser/lib/hppc-0.3.1.jar
> ./ctakes-dependency-parser/lib/uimafit-1.2.0.jar
>
> These are just a few that exist in SVN. All dependencies that are
> compiled code need to be externally referenced.
>
> As for the models, I don' think there is any issue in keeping them in
> jars, but the question is why?  Are they never going to evolve or
> change?  Wouldn't you keep them as source and just package them as
> jars for use at runtime?  As I said, this is not an issue, I am just
> curious.
>
>>
>> I will look at the NOTICE file this afternoon.
>>
>> Regards,
>> James Masanz
>>
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: general-return-39326-Masanz.James=mayo....@incubator.apache.org
>>> [mailto:general-return-39326-Masanz.James=mayo....@incubator.apache.org]
>>> On Behalf Of Masanz, James J.
>>> Sent: Monday, January 21, 2013 9:51 AM
>>> To: 'general@incubator.apache.org'
>>> Subject: RE: [VOTE] Apache cTAKES 3.0.0-incubating RC5 release
>>>
>>> The result of the VOTE for 3.0.0-incubating on the dev list is at
>>> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-ctakes-
>>> dev/201301.mbox/browser
>>>
>>> The source artifact can be found in
>>> http://people.apache.org/~chenpei/ctakes-3.0.0-incubating/rc5/target/
>>>
>>> I'll look at the jars and the root NOTICE file.
>>>
>>> Thanks for your review!
>>> -- James Masanz
>>>
>>> > -----Original Message-----
>>> > From: general-return-39325-Masanz.James=mayo....@incubator.apache.org
>>> > [mailto:general-return-39325-Masanz.James=mayo....@incubator.apache.or
>>> > g]
>>> > On Behalf Of Matt Franklin
>>> > Sent: Monday, January 21, 2013 7:42 AM
>>> > To: general@incubator.apache.org
>>> > Cc: ctakes-...@incubator.apache.org
>>> > Subject: Re: [VOTE] Apache cTAKES 3.0.0-incubating RC5 release
>>> >
>>> > I have some issues with this release as it currently stands:
>>> >
>>> > * Where is the result of the VOTE thread on the dev list?
>>> > * Where is the source artifact?  The artifact linked in the vote
>>> > thread appears to be your convenience binary release.
>>> > * There are compiled jars in the source tree.  These need to be
>>> > externalized in some fashion.
>>> > * There are LICENSE & NOTICE files in individual project directories
>>> > that contain entries that don't appear in the root NOTICE file.  If
>>> > you intend on releasing the subcomponents individually, this makes
>>> > some sense; but I think that the entries should be merged into the
>>> > root NOTICE file
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 9:39 AM, Coarr, Matt <mco...@mitre.org> wrote:
>>> > > Hi, we just need one more Incubator PMC vote for cTAKES version 3.0.
>>> > >
>>> > > Matt
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > > ---
>>> > > From: <Chen>, Pei <pei.c...@childrens.harvard.edu>
>>> > > Subject: Collecting IPMC votes
>>> > >
>>> > > Hi,
>>> > >
>>> > > This is a call for a vote on releasing the following candidate as
>>> > > Apache cTAKES 3.0.0-incubating.
>>> > > This will be our first release.
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > > A vote is also held on the developer mailing list:
>>> > > http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-ctakes-dev/201301
>>> > > .m
>>> > > box/b
>>> > > rowser
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > > For more detailed information on the changes/release notes, please
>>> > visit:
>>> > >
>>> > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/ReleaseNote.jspa?projectId=123
>>> > > 13
>>> > > 621&v
>>> > > ersion=12322969
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > > The release was made using the cTAKES release process documented here:
>>> > > http://incubator.apache.org/ctakes/ctakes-release-guide.html
>>> > >
>>> > > The candidate is available at:
>>> > >
>>> > > http://people.apache.org/~chenpei/ctakes-3.0.0-incubating/rc5/target
>>> > > /a
>>> > > pache
>>> > > -ctakes-3.0.0-incubating-bin.tar.gz
>>> > > /.zip
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > > The tag to be voted on:
>>> > >
>>> > > http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/ctakes/tags/ctakes-3.0.0-i
>>> > > nc
>>> > > ubati
>>> > > ng-rc5/
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > > The MD5 checksum of the tarball can be found at:
>>> > >
>>> > > http://people.apache.org/~chenpei/ctakes-3.0.0-incubating/rc5/target
>>> > > /a
>>> > > pache
>>> > > -ctakes-3.0.0-incubating-bin.tar.gz.md5
>>> > > /.zip.md5
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > > The signature of the tarball can be found at:
>>> > >
>>> > > http://people.apache.org/~chenpei/ctakes-3.0.0-incubating/rc5/target
>>> > > /a pache -ctakes-3.0.0-incubating-bin.tar.gz.asc
>>> > > /.zip.asc
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > > Apache cTAKES' KEYS file, containing the PGP keys used to sign the
>>> > release:
>>> > >
>>> > > http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/ctakes/tags/ctakes-3.0.0-i
>>> > > nc
>>> > > ubati
>>> > > ng-rc5/KEYS
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > > Please vote on releasing these packages as Apache cTAKES 3.0.0-
>>> > incubating.
>>> > > The vote is open
>>> > > for at least the next 72 hours.
>>> > >
>>> > > Only votes from Incubator PMC are binding, but folks are welcome to
>>> > > check the release candidate and voice their approval or disapproval.
>>> > > The vote passes if at least three binding +1 votes are cast.
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > > [ ] +1 Release the packages as Apache cTAKES 3.0.0-incubating [ ] -1
>>> > > Do not release the packages because...
>>> > >
>>> > > Thanks!
>>> > >
>>> > > Pei
>>> > >
>>> > > P.S. Here is my +1.
>>> > >
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