Sent from my mobile device, please forgive errors and brevity. On Nov 25, 2011 5:41 AM, "Dennis E. Hamilton" <dennis.hamil...@acm.org> wrote: > > Ross, > > I don't see the champion (who is at least a mentor) and an informal PPMC chair somehow selected among the PPMC members as interchangeable or equivalent. My concern was, to the extent that view exists (and I may simply be confused), I don't get it. > > I'd be happy to learn that I have misunderstood some of the positions expressed.
OK,I get your concern now. I had assumed that mentors would not agree to a non-IPMC champion who is not ready. Further, it was stated that the champion need not be a mentor. The role of the champion is nothing more than a coordination role, it doesn't require any specific skills other than to understand what needs top go in a board report and when. Until graduation mentors are still available to guide. Perhaps the proposal needs to make it explicit that the initial champion is the one to call a vote for the first non-IPMC champion and that this is am important step on the road to graduation. Ross > > - Dennis > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ross Gardler [mailto:rgard...@opendirective.com] > Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2011 11:26 > To: dennis.hamil...@acm.org; general@incubator.apache.org > Subject: RE: [PROPOSAL] Clarify the role of the Champion as an "incubation coordinator" (was: should podlings have informal chairs?) > > Sent from my mobile device, please forgive errors and brevity. > On Nov 24, 2011 5:59 PM, "Dennis E. Hamilton" <dennis.hamil...@acm.org> > wrote: > > > > I understand about PMC chairs, but I thought that is for a TLP and > happens at > > Podling graduation. > > The official role of PMC chair is created upon graduation, yes. But the > responsibilities the role carries start once incubation starts. At present > nobody l owns those responsibilities during graduation. > > > > > Having PPMC chairs is a different story, and I hope I was careful not to > > confuse the two. I also don't want to collapse champion and PPMC chair in > > some way. I still favor the one and not the other. I have no need to say > > more about that. > > > > I'm confused, and therefore request more info about your concern. The two > roles, as I understand them are essentially the same (once incubation > starts). I don't see any significant differences and thus don't see any > "collapse" of two roles into one. Can you point to the differences you > perceive? > > Ross > > > Clarifying the role of champion is certainly a good idea. > > > [ ... ] > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org >
