Ross,

I don't see the champion (who is at least a mentor) and an informal PPMC chair 
somehow selected among the PPMC members as interchangeable or equivalent.  My 
concern was, to the extent that view exists (and I may simply be confused), I 
don't get it.

I'd be happy to learn that I have misunderstood some of the positions expressed.

 - Dennis

-----Original Message-----
From: Ross Gardler [mailto:rgard...@opendirective.com] 
Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2011 11:26
To: dennis.hamil...@acm.org; general@incubator.apache.org
Subject: RE: [PROPOSAL] Clarify the role of the Champion as an "incubation 
coordinator" (was: should podlings have informal chairs?)

Sent from my mobile device, please forgive errors and brevity.
On Nov 24, 2011 5:59 PM, "Dennis E. Hamilton" <dennis.hamil...@acm.org>
wrote:
>
> I understand about PMC chairs, but I thought that is for a TLP and
happens at
> Podling graduation.

The official role of PMC  chair is created upon graduation, yes. But the
responsibilities the role carries start once incubation starts. At present
nobody l owns those responsibilities during graduation.

>
> Having PPMC chairs is a different story, and I hope I was careful not to
> confuse the two.  I also don't want to collapse champion and PPMC chair in
> some way.  I still favor the one and not the other.  I have no need to say
> more about that.
>

I'm confused, and therefore request more info about your concern. The two
roles, as I understand them are essentially the same (once incubation
starts).  I don't see any significant differences and thus don't see any
"collapse" of two roles into one. Can you point to the differences you
perceive?

Ross

> Clarifying the role of champion is certainly a good idea.
>
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