On Nov 21, 2011, at 10:55 AM, Joe Schaefer wrote: > > I suggest we get back to figuring out exactly what problem we are > trying to solve before we start looking for appropriate labels to > attach to the role(s) we need.
+1. Cheers, Chris > > > > ----- Original Message ----- >> From: sebb <seb...@gmail.com> >> To: general@incubator.apache.org >> Cc: >> Sent: Monday, November 21, 2011 1:49 PM >> Subject: Re: should podlings have informal chairs? >> >> On 21 November 2011 18:22, Scott Deboy <scott.de...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> What about getting rid of the word 'champion'? Seems like there >> are two >>> roles: the Member(s) which backed the proposal to enter the incubator, and >>> a Coordinator. >> >> I think Champion is a good name, especially for the pre-podling phase. >> >> Seems to me it often takes more than a mere Coordinator to ensure that >> the proposal reaches the vote to accept a podling. >> >> For the current issue - ensuring podlings don't get lost on the way to >> graduation - maybe a "shepherd" is needed. >> >> But I still think the original Champion could be tasked with the role. >> If they were keep enough to act as Champion to ensure that the project >> was accepted as a podling, one would hope they would be keen to ensure >> that the podling eventually graduates. >> >>> Scott >>> >>> On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 9:06 AM, Ross Gardler >> <rgard...@opendirective.com>wrote: >>> >>>> On 21 November 2011 16:47, Joe Schaefer <joe_schae...@yahoo.com> >> wrote: >>>>> Personally I am against the idea of picking a chair >>>>> for a podling early. >>>> >>>> That's not the proposal, although it was suggested and I believe >>>> rejected (for reasons similar to the ones you gave), at least I've >> not >>>> seen any support for it. >>>> >>>> The proposal is as the subject says "an informal chair". The >> name >>>> seems to have moved to champion in order to avoid any impression of >>>> leadership. >>>> >>>> The responsibilities would be to the Incubator PMC to ensure that the >>>> project is progressing rather than struggling with busy elsewhere or >>>> inactive mentors. >>>> >>>> Does your concern extend to this role? >>>> >>>> Ross >>>> >>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org >>>> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org >>>> >>>> >>> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org >> > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Chris Mattmann, Ph.D. Senior Computer Scientist NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246 Email: chris.a.mattm...@nasa.gov WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org