On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 4:41 PM, Luke Kowalski <luke.kowal...@oracle.com> wrote: > The following project is being sent in as an incubator candidate.
The "Required Resources" section of the proposal is pretty minimalistic listing only two mailing lists, JIRA, Subversion & download site. While it is not necessary IMO to detail all requirements prior to accepting the proposal, it would be better to to give a more realistic picture of the scope of the resources required. Looking at the OpenOffice.org website I see the following: - 146 projects (each of which has a mailing list) - A wiki powered by http://www.mediawiki.org - Forums in 10 languages powered by http://www.phpbb.com/ How many of these projects is it anticipated (best guess) will end up at the ASF? What is the likely number of mailing lists that will (eventually) be required? Will the user forums be hosted and supported by the ASF? Will the MidiWiki and its content be hosted and supported by the ASF? OpenOffice.org has quite a few domain names (e.g. OpenOffice.org, projects.openoffice.org, support.openoffice.org, about.openoffice.org, marketing.openoffice.org etc.) - which (if any) of these domain names be transferred to the ASF? I know there were good questions asked about trademarks in the following thread: http://markmail.org/message/zjllzh3ushsd3kdu ...and the answer(s) were it will be cleared up during incubation. But it would be good to have an idea of whether this is going to be a big issue or not. On the face of it, it looks like there has been a more liberal policy than the ASF's current policy and there could be a large number of companies that might have to be dealt with. We have seen that dealing with a trademark issue with one company can take quite a bit of effort - OpenOffice.org could dwarf that. Specifically then: - has the OpenOffice.org trademark policy been more liberal than the ASF's current policy? - how many organisations have been granted permission to use the trademark in their products and services? http://surveys.services.openoffice.org/surveys/index.php?sid=31881 - If it has been more liberal, will the ASF allow this to continue and if not how will organisations that have been given permission be dealt with? Lastly a couple of comments.. I thought Allen Pulsifer's post was good: http://markmail.org/message/yowqc4eloxsjhhll ...especially the part about how OpenOffice.org dwarfs the scale of any other ASF project and I worry about whether we have the volunteer hours to first incubate this project and second to oversee and administer it post graduation? I know that Rob said they didn't want to flood the proposal with IBM committers, but diversity isn't an issue for entering incubation - only exiting, so IMO it would be better to see those people listed from the start. Thanks Niall > regards > luke --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
