On 3 May 2011 14:25, Christian Grobmeier <grobme...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi, > > Simo, I guess you are referring to: > "Use iss...@commons.apache.org' for Jira change notification" > > I am +1
Likewise, +1 > > Cheers > Christian > > > On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 2:20 PM, Simone Tripodi <simonetrip...@apache.org> > wrote: >> Hi all guys, >> do you agree on Gavin's suggestion on INFRA-3600[1]? >> I agree but before giving him the confirmation can someone please review? >> Many thanks in advance, >> Simo >> >> [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-3600 >> >> http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/ >> http://www.99soft.org/ >> >> >> >> On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 7:52 AM, Simone Tripodi <simonetrip...@apache.org> >> wrote: >>> Hi again, >>> As you already noticed, the main Issue is INFRA-3597[1]. >>> Many thanks in advance! >>> Simo >>> >>> [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-3597 >>> >>> http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/ >>> http://www.99soft.org/ >>> >>> >>> >>> On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 7:39 AM, Simone Tripodi <simonetrip...@apache.org> >>> wrote: >>>> Hi all guys, >>>> the discussion in following up on INFRA-3601[1], please join to >>>> correct me if I'm wrong! >>>> Many thanks in advance, >>>> Simo >>>> >>>> [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-3601 >>>> >>>> http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/ >>>> http://www.99soft.org/ >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 10:35 AM, Mark Struberg <strub...@yahoo.de> wrote: >>>>> just for the record (for the new contributors). As long as your >>>>> incubating the following rules apply: >>>>> >>>>> http://incubator.apache.org/guides/ppmc.html >>>>> >>>>> At the time you graduate you need to check who really was active and >>>>> 'cleanup' the PPMC. So not every person which was on the PPMC >>>>> automatically makes it to the final PMC anyway ... >>>>> >>>>> LieGrue, >>>>> strub >>>>> >>>>> --- On Mon, 5/2/11, Olivier Lamy <ol...@apache.org> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> From: Olivier Lamy <ol...@apache.org> >>>>>> Subject: Re: OGNL Infrastructure questions >>>>>> To: general@incubator.apache.org >>>>>> Date: Monday, May 2, 2011, 7:11 AM >>>>>> +1 >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> 2011/5/2 Christian Grobmeier <grobme...@gmail.com>: >>>>>> >> My issue (for the commons PMC I guess) is how >>>>>> committer votes will >>>>>> >> happen when OGNL graduates. >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> After graduation, how would one of the current >>>>>> contributors propose a >>>>>> >> new committer if they are not themselves on the >>>>>> Commons PMC? >>>>>> > >>>>>> > Proposal: >>>>>> > >>>>>> > - If you are a Commons PMC Member, you are an OGNL >>>>>> PPMC member by default >>>>>> > - If a Committer is invited to the PPMC, an additional >>>>>> vote on Commons >>>>>> > PMC is necessary, b/c he will join the Commons PMC >>>>>> after graduation by >>>>>> > default >>>>>> > - A contributor can be proposed by anybody - its up to >>>>>> the PPMC to open the vote >>>>>> > - A new Committer can be elected by the PPMC with >>>>>> binding votes; as >>>>>> > usual other Committers can vote unbinding. I don't >>>>>> think it creates >>>>>> > any problems b/c usually there is already a consens on >>>>>> adding a person >>>>>> > before calling a vote. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > Makes sense? >>>>>> > >>>>>> > Cheers >>>>>> > Christian >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> Upayavira >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> On Sun, 01 May 2011 19:56 +0200, "Simone Tripodi" >>>>>> >> <simonetrip...@apache.org> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>> Hi Upayavira!!! >>>>>> >>> I agree that commons folks can have rw rights, >>>>>> so people are already >>>>>> >>> used to co-work in the 'commons way'. >>>>>> >>> Moreover, I agreed on joining >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> >>> - dev@commons.a.o >>>>>> >>> - users@commons.a.o >>>>>> >>> - issues@commons.a.o >>>>>> >>> - create the private ML where commons PMCs can >>>>>> join. >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> >>> Does it make sense? >>>>>> >>> Simo >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> >>> http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/ >>>>>> >>> http://www.99soft.org/ >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> >>> On Sun, May 1, 2011 at 7:22 PM, Upayavira >>>>>> <u...@odoko.co.uk> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>> > use commons-user: +1 >>>>>> >>> > put SVN in 'incubator' space: +1 >>>>>> >>> > grant "commons rw: +1 (assuming current >>>>>> OGNL committers agree) >>>>>> >>> > >>>>>> >>> > As to a private list, I think the benefit >>>>>> would be the opportunity for >>>>>> >>> > the OGNL committers to learn how such >>>>>> management happens. Where, for >>>>>> >>> > example, would committer votes happen? >>>>>> The issue with graduation to >>>>>> >>> > Commons is what happens after graduation >>>>>> - do they suddenly loose some >>>>>> >>> > power over their own affairs, e.g. ease >>>>>> of seeing vote threads. So not >>>>>> >>> > sure the best on this one. >>>>>> >>> > >>>>>> >>> > Upayavira >>>>>> >>> > >>>>>> >>> > On Fri, 29 Apr 2011 08:29 -0700, "Henri >>>>>> Yandell" <flame...@gmail.com> >>>>>> >>> > wrote: >>>>>> >>> >> Agreed, no need to use the svn >>>>>> location from Commons; though I ask to >>>>>> >>> >> allow @commons rw access. >>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>> >>> >> The committer of the podling would >>>>>> not automatically become PMC >>>>>> >>> >> members, so I don't think there is a >>>>>> need to setup a private list (or >>>>>> >>> >> even to consider it a PPMC). >>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>> >>> >> Hen >>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>> >>> >> On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 11:05 PM, >>>>>> Christian Grobmeier >>>>>> >>> >> <grobme...@gmail.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>> >> >> we could share MLs and also >>>>>> SVN (Sandbox >>>>>> >>> >> >> would be nice, not?) >>>>>> >>> >> > >>>>>> >>> >> > MLs are fine, b/c one would need >>>>>> to change address later, and >>>>>> >>> >> > searching for pre-graduation >>>>>> threads is more easily. >>>>>> >>> >> > >>>>>> >>> >> > For SVN I don't see a benefit. >>>>>> The repos can be moved with less effort >>>>>> >>> >> > once component is graduated. I >>>>>> would like to avoid to get something >>>>>> >>> >> > into the sandbox which is not >>>>>> cleared from legal perspective. What, if >>>>>> >>> >> > OGNL fails in the incubator and >>>>>> we just forget to remove the code from >>>>>> >>> >> > the sandbox? If its in the >>>>>> incubator part, it is like a tag >>>>>> >>> >> > saying:"beware" >>>>>> >>> >> > >>>>>> >>> >> > I would be +1 on user/dev ML but >>>>>> leave SVN in incubator >>>>>> >>> >> > Is there a need to create a pmc >>>>>> ML for OGNL to discuss incubation >>>>>> >>> >> > related matters? >>>>>> >>> >> > >>>>>> >>> >> > Cheers >>>>>> >>> >> > >>>>>> >>> >> >> What Incubator PMCs think >>>>>> about it? >>>>>> >>> >> >> Simo >>>>>> >>> >> >> >>>>>> >>> >> >> http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/ >>>>>> >>> >> >> http://www.99soft.org/ >>>>>> >>> >> >> >>>>>> >>> >> >> >>>>>> >>> >> >> >>>>>> >>> >> >> On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 7:34 >>>>>> AM, Henri Yandell <flame...@gmail.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>> >> >>> Below is a thread from >>>>>> the Commons Dev list in which I'm recommending >>>>>> >>> >> >>> that OGNL use the >>>>>> commons dev mailing list and that the svn >>>>>> >>> >> >>> permissions allow the >>>>>> ognl committers and the commons committers to >>>>>> >>> >> >>> have read write access. >>>>>> >>> >> >>> >>>>>> >>> >> >>> http://commons.markmail.org/thread/ku3ouuilpiicb5is >>>>>> >>> >> >>> >>>>>> >>> >> >>> Is this a concern for >>>>>> anyone? >>>>>> >>> >> >>> >>>>>> >>> >> >>> OGNL's target is to >>>>>> graduate into Commons rather than to TLP, so >>>>>> >>> >> >>> making it act like a TLP >>>>>> seems destined to cause problems. >>>>>> >>> >> >>> >>>>>> >>> >> >>> Hen >>>>>> >>> >> >>> >>>>>> >>> >> >>> >>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>> >>> >> >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: >>>>>> general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org >>>>>> >>> >> >>> For additional commands, >>>>>> e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org >>>>>> >>> >> >>> >>>>>> >>> >> >>> >>>>>> >>> >> >> >>>>>> >>> >> >> >>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>> >>> >> >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: >>>>>> >>> >> >> general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org >>>>>> >>> >> >> For additional commands, >>>>>> e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org >>>>>> >>> >> >> >>>>>> >>> >> >> >>>>>> >>> >> > >>>>>> >>> >> > >>>>>> >>> >> > >>>>>> >>> >> > -- >>>>>> >>> >> > http://www.grobmeier.de >>>>>> >>> >> > >>>>>> >>> >> > >>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>> >>> >> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org >>>>>> >>> >> > For additional commands, e-mail: >>>>>> general-h...@incubator.apache.org >>>>>> >>> >> > >>>>>> >>> >> > >>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>> >>> >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org >>>>>> >>> >> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org >>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>> >>> > >>>>>> >>> > >>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>> >>> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org >>>>>> >>> > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org >>>>>> >>> > >>>>>> >>> > >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>> >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org >>>>>> >>> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>> >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org >>>>>> >> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > -- >>>>>> > http://www.grobmeier.de >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org >>>>>> > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Olivier Lamy >>>>>> http://twitter.com/olamy >>>>>> http://www.linkedin.com/in/olamy >>>>>> >>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org >>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org >>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org >> >> > > > > -- > http://www.grobmeier.de > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org