On 3 May 2011 14:25, Christian Grobmeier <grobme...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Simo, I guess you are referring to:
> "Use iss...@commons.apache.org' for Jira change notification"
>
> I am +1

Likewise, +1

>
> Cheers
> Christian
>
>
> On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 2:20 PM, Simone Tripodi <simonetrip...@apache.org> 
> wrote:
>> Hi all guys,
>> do you agree on Gavin's suggestion on INFRA-3600[1]?
>> I agree but before giving him the confirmation can someone please review?
>> Many thanks in advance,
>> Simo
>>
>> [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-3600
>>
>> http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/
>> http://www.99soft.org/
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 7:52 AM, Simone Tripodi <simonetrip...@apache.org> 
>> wrote:
>>> Hi again,
>>> As you already noticed, the main Issue is INFRA-3597[1].
>>> Many thanks in advance!
>>> Simo
>>>
>>> [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-3597
>>>
>>> http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/
>>> http://www.99soft.org/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 7:39 AM, Simone Tripodi <simonetrip...@apache.org> 
>>> wrote:
>>>> Hi all guys,
>>>> the discussion in following up on INFRA-3601[1], please join to
>>>> correct me if I'm wrong!
>>>> Many thanks in advance,
>>>> Simo
>>>>
>>>> [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-3601
>>>>
>>>> http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/
>>>> http://www.99soft.org/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 10:35 AM, Mark Struberg <strub...@yahoo.de> wrote:
>>>>> just for the record (for the new contributors). As long as your 
>>>>> incubating the following rules apply:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://incubator.apache.org/guides/ppmc.html
>>>>>
>>>>> At the time you graduate you need to check who really was active and 
>>>>> 'cleanup' the PPMC. So not every person which was on the PPMC 
>>>>> automatically makes it to the final PMC anyway ...
>>>>>
>>>>> LieGrue,
>>>>> strub
>>>>>
>>>>> --- On Mon, 5/2/11, Olivier Lamy <ol...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> From: Olivier Lamy <ol...@apache.org>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: OGNL Infrastructure questions
>>>>>> To: general@incubator.apache.org
>>>>>> Date: Monday, May 2, 2011, 7:11 AM
>>>>>> +1
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2011/5/2 Christian Grobmeier <grobme...@gmail.com>:
>>>>>> >> My issue (for the commons PMC I guess) is how
>>>>>> committer votes will
>>>>>> >> happen when OGNL graduates.
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> After graduation, how would one of the current
>>>>>> contributors propose a
>>>>>> >> new committer if they are not themselves on the
>>>>>> Commons PMC?
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Proposal:
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > - If you are a Commons PMC Member, you are an OGNL
>>>>>> PPMC member by default
>>>>>> > - If a Committer is invited to the PPMC, an additional
>>>>>> vote on Commons
>>>>>> > PMC is necessary, b/c he will join the Commons PMC
>>>>>> after graduation by
>>>>>> > default
>>>>>> > - A contributor can be proposed by anybody - its up to
>>>>>> the PPMC to open the vote
>>>>>> > - A new Committer can be elected by the PPMC with
>>>>>> binding votes; as
>>>>>> > usual other Committers can vote unbinding. I don't
>>>>>> think it creates
>>>>>> > any problems b/c usually there is already a consens on
>>>>>> adding a person
>>>>>> > before calling a vote.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Makes sense?
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Cheers
>>>>>> > Christian
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> Upayavira
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> On Sun, 01 May 2011 19:56 +0200, "Simone Tripodi"
>>>>>> >> <simonetrip...@apache.org>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> >>> Hi Upayavira!!!
>>>>>> >>> I agree that commons folks can have rw rights,
>>>>>> so people are already
>>>>>> >>> used to co-work in the 'commons way'.
>>>>>> >>> Moreover, I agreed on joining
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> - dev@commons.a.o
>>>>>> >>> - users@commons.a.o
>>>>>> >>> - issues@commons.a.o
>>>>>> >>> - create the private ML where commons PMCs can
>>>>>> join.
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> Does it make sense?
>>>>>> >>> Simo
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/
>>>>>> >>> http://www.99soft.org/
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> On Sun, May 1, 2011 at 7:22 PM, Upayavira
>>>>>> <u...@odoko.co.uk>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> >>> > use commons-user: +1
>>>>>> >>> > put SVN in 'incubator' space: +1
>>>>>> >>> > grant "commons rw: +1 (assuming current
>>>>>> OGNL committers agree)
>>>>>> >>> >
>>>>>> >>> > As to a private list, I think the benefit
>>>>>> would be the opportunity for
>>>>>> >>> > the OGNL committers to learn how such
>>>>>> management happens. Where, for
>>>>>> >>> > example, would committer votes happen?
>>>>>> The issue with graduation to
>>>>>> >>> > Commons is what happens after graduation
>>>>>> - do they suddenly loose some
>>>>>> >>> > power over their own affairs, e.g. ease
>>>>>> of seeing vote threads. So not
>>>>>> >>> > sure the best on this one.
>>>>>> >>> >
>>>>>> >>> > Upayavira
>>>>>> >>> >
>>>>>> >>> > On Fri, 29 Apr 2011 08:29 -0700, "Henri
>>>>>> Yandell" <flame...@gmail.com>
>>>>>> >>> > wrote:
>>>>>> >>> >> Agreed, no need to use the svn
>>>>>> location from Commons; though I ask to
>>>>>> >>> >> allow @commons rw access.
>>>>>> >>> >>
>>>>>> >>> >> The committer of the podling would
>>>>>> not automatically become PMC
>>>>>> >>> >> members, so I don't think there is a
>>>>>> need to setup a private list (or
>>>>>> >>> >> even to consider it a PPMC).
>>>>>> >>> >>
>>>>>> >>> >> Hen
>>>>>> >>> >>
>>>>>> >>> >> On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 11:05 PM,
>>>>>> Christian Grobmeier
>>>>>> >>> >> <grobme...@gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> >>> >> >> we could share MLs and also
>>>>>> SVN (Sandbox
>>>>>> >>> >> >> would be nice, not?)
>>>>>> >>> >> >
>>>>>> >>> >> > MLs are fine, b/c one would need
>>>>>> to change address later, and
>>>>>> >>> >> > searching for pre-graduation
>>>>>> threads is more easily.
>>>>>> >>> >> >
>>>>>> >>> >> > For SVN I don't see a benefit.
>>>>>> The repos can be moved with less effort
>>>>>> >>> >> > once component is graduated. I
>>>>>> would like to avoid to get something
>>>>>> >>> >> > into the sandbox which is not
>>>>>> cleared from legal perspective. What, if
>>>>>> >>> >> > OGNL fails in the incubator and
>>>>>> we just forget to remove the code from
>>>>>> >>> >> > the sandbox? If its in the
>>>>>> incubator part, it is like a tag
>>>>>> >>> >> > saying:"beware"
>>>>>> >>> >> >
>>>>>> >>> >> > I would be +1 on user/dev ML but
>>>>>> leave SVN in incubator
>>>>>> >>> >> > Is there a need to create a pmc
>>>>>> ML for OGNL to discuss incubation
>>>>>> >>> >> > related matters?
>>>>>> >>> >> >
>>>>>> >>> >> > Cheers
>>>>>> >>> >> >
>>>>>> >>> >> >> What Incubator PMCs think
>>>>>> about it?
>>>>>> >>> >> >> Simo
>>>>>> >>> >> >>
>>>>>> >>> >> >> http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/
>>>>>> >>> >> >> http://www.99soft.org/
>>>>>> >>> >> >>
>>>>>> >>> >> >>
>>>>>> >>> >> >>
>>>>>> >>> >> >> On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 7:34
>>>>>> AM, Henri Yandell <flame...@gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> >>> >> >>> Below is a thread from
>>>>>> the Commons Dev list in which I'm recommending
>>>>>> >>> >> >>> that OGNL use the
>>>>>> commons dev mailing list and that the svn
>>>>>> >>> >> >>> permissions allow the
>>>>>> ognl committers and the commons committers to
>>>>>> >>> >> >>> have read write access.
>>>>>> >>> >> >>>
>>>>>> >>> >> >>>    http://commons.markmail.org/thread/ku3ouuilpiicb5is
>>>>>> >>> >> >>>
>>>>>> >>> >> >>> Is this a concern for
>>>>>> anyone?
>>>>>> >>> >> >>>
>>>>>> >>> >> >>> OGNL's target is to
>>>>>> graduate into Commons rather than to TLP, so
>>>>>> >>> >> >>> making it act like a TLP
>>>>>> seems destined to cause problems.
>>>>>> >>> >> >>>
>>>>>> >>> >> >>> Hen
>>>>>> >>> >> >>>
>>>>>> >>> >> >>>
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