There was no attempt to contact the Felix PMC in general that I am aware and I certainly didn't know about it in advance.

And there seems to be a continued attempt to construe my original criticisms as "all of Aries should go into Felix".

I, personally, do not believe that all of Aries should go into Felix, I too think it should have its own identity. I was always only ever referring to the independent OSGi spec implementations. I was arguing that Felix is a good place to work on them, since it is part of what it is trying to achieve.

Further, I don't really understand the implication that somehow the burden is now on the Felix community to go and contribute to Aries on OSGi spec implementations just because of this proposal, when there was no attempt to work with the Felix community on creating OSGi spec implementations in the first.

The only conclusions I see being drawn by people who have invested very little in Felix is that we should dismantle the Felix charter so that we can accommodate the fact that some people don't want to play with us.

At that rate, I stand by my previous "vote" and otherwise people can do whatever they want in Aries.

-> richard

On 9/3/09 13:23, Niclas Hedhman wrote:
Kevan,

Was a contact with Felix made prior to dropping the proposal here? I got the
impression that wasn't the case, which I find surprising... If I am wrong,
what was the meat of such?

I'm also less happy with the rhetoric here repeated over and over, seemingly
uninterested in discussion of reaching a solution everyone can accept. (From
both camps, btw)

-- Niclas

On Sep 4, 2009 12:53 AM, "Kevan Miller"<kevan.mil...@gmail.com>  wrote:

On Sep 3, 2009, at 12:53 AM, Niclas Hedhman wrote:>  On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at
3:19 AM, William A. Ro...
Totally agree. Had certainly hoped that Felix committers would be interested
in joining...

--kevan

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