On May 12, 2009, at 11:22 AM, Alan D. Cabrera wrote:
On May 12, 2009, at 11:12 AM, Craig L Russell wrote:On May 12, 2009, at 10:56 AM, Alan D. Cabrera wrote:On May 12, 2009, at 9:06 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote:On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 5:14 PM, Alan D. Cabrera <l...@toolazydogs.com > wrote:...I'd like someone to come up with a concise argument that would allow me to let this go other than "nope, it's not the same". Otherwise, I feel that I need to bring up a vote to put the issue to bed once and for all....The only thing that I can say is that from the ASF's point of view your project's name is "Apache Ki", no just "Ki".So, this is an interesting point. Can we change Apache Geronimo's name to Apache WebSphere and get a way with it?The main point is that you and I disagree on whether FixFlyer Ki and Apache Ki are in the same domain.I have neither broad nor deep experience with securities trading systems, but I do know what financial securities are. And I claim that someone knowledgeable enough about computer systems to be in a position to evaluate software for securities trading systems, should know the difference between Java security and Securities Trading.I think you missed my point and that is that they are comparing their Java security system, not the financial instruments, against JSecurity's.
Not what I said.
Both provide the same functionality where their vertical application overlaps with our horizontal application, that is, Java security.
There's no evidence of this that I can see. Maybe we're looking at different source documents?
It is not unusual to see companies break out pieces a product line and open source them.
So I went to the FixFlyer web site yet again, and can't find any evidence that they are in the same application domain.
Neither the Ki Certification web page http://www.fixflyer.com/html-files/KiCertification.html nor their pdf http://www.fixflyer.com/materials/software/Ki/FlyerKiCertification.pdf mentions the word security.
Craig
Regards, AlanCraigAbout the actual risks associated with FixFlyer's considering that Apache Ki infringes on their trademarks, the best might be to ask legal-disc...@apache.org.Do we want to get into this kind of tussle straight out of the gate w/ a podling that's been "using" this name for such short while?Regards, Alan --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.orgCraig L Russell Architect, Sun Java Enterprise System http://db.apache.org/jdo 408 276-5638 mailto:craig.russ...@sun.com P.S. A good JDO? O, Gasp!--------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
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