On May 12, 2009, at 11:12 AM, Craig L Russell wrote:
On May 12, 2009, at 10:56 AM, Alan D. Cabrera wrote:
On May 12, 2009, at 9:06 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote:
On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 5:14 PM, Alan D. Cabrera <l...@toolazydogs.com
> wrote:
...I'd like someone to come up with a concise argument that would
allow me to
let this go other than "nope, it's not the same". Otherwise, I
feel that I
need to bring up a vote to put the issue to bed once and for
all....
The only thing that I can say is that from the ASF's point of view
your project's name is "Apache Ki", no just "Ki".
So, this is an interesting point. Can we change Apache Geronimo's
name to Apache WebSphere and get a way with it?
The main point is that you and I disagree on whether FixFlyer Ki and
Apache Ki are in the same domain.
I have neither broad nor deep experience with securities trading
systems, but I do know what financial securities are. And I claim
that someone knowledgeable enough about computer systems to be in a
position to evaluate software for securities trading systems, should
know the difference between Java security and Securities Trading.
I think you missed my point and that is that they are comparing their
Java security system, not the financial instruments, against
JSecurity's. Both provide the same functionality where their vertical
application overlaps with our horizontal application, that is, Java
security.
It is not unusual to see companies break out pieces a product line and
open source them.
But to answer your question, if Apache WebSphere were a loose-knit
pajama bottom, I doubt that anyone would complain about the name
conflict. As it is, Geronimo and WebSphere are in the same domain.
Not a valid analogy.
Regards,
Alan
Craig
About the actual risks associated with FixFlyer's considering that
Apache Ki infringes on their trademarks, the best might be to ask
legal-disc...@apache.org.
Do we want to get into this kind of tussle straight out of the gate
w/ a podling that's been "using" this name for such short while?
Regards,
Alan
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