On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 1:15 PM, Jan Lehnardt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Niall, > > thanks for your feedback. > > On Nov 4, 2008, at 01:53, Niall Pemberton wrote: > >> I haven't been following CouchDB but a PMC of five seems small - you >> only have to loose a couple of people and you're on the verge of not >> being a viable project. I took a look through the lists and from what >> I can see CouchDB entered incubation with four committers in February >> (the proposal listed six, but apparently was a mistake[1]) and has >> added one new person just over a month ago[2]. >> >> >> I know theres been a push to get projects to graduate, but IMO CouchDB >> would benefit from growing its community a bit more first. > > We (informally, again :) decided to hold back a release and adding more > committers in favour of doing the graduation first (just to not have three > things running at the same time. While our software is highly concurrent, > we aren't :) > > The general feel with the project is that we are rather gaining contributors > than losing them. That does not really address the concern of a 5-person > PMC being small (the documented prime-example board resolutions have > 8-10). Again, we (devs, community, mentors) think we are a healthy and > growing project and I wonder if a 5-person PMC would be a show stopper?
Its not and five active people is certainly viable, but my point really was for the long term viability in case people leave the project. Niall >> Also, since there have been two releases while here, I assume all the >> due-dilligence has been completed, but the status page[3] has not been >> completed to reflect that - so if you do go for graduation it would be >> nice if that was updated first. > > Ted, I patched the couchdb.xml project file > (http://friendpaste.com/ebk8csvC) > and updated the committer & mentor lists; can you commit? In addition, it > looks > that some of the dates in the "work items" section are missing. How to go > about > these? > > Cheers > Jan > -- > > >> Niall >> >> [1] http://couchdb.markmail.org/message/my725uiourw25qnm >> [2] http://couchdb.markmail.org/message/hzge6ofddnknhqby >> [3] http://incubator.apache.org/projects/couchdb.html >> >> On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 5:19 PM, Jan Lehnardt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> >>> Dear Incubator General List, >>> >>> The community and developers of Apache CouchDB deem >>> the project ready for graduation to a top level Apache project. >>> >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] vote summary: >>> >>> >>> >>> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-couchdb-dev/200810.mbox/[EMAIL >>> PROTECTED] >>> >>> Message IDs for informal(*) PPMC vote to appoint Damien Katz to become >>> "Vice President, CouchDB": >>> >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> >>> (* Sorry we didn't to a formal vote and hence no formal [RESULT] message) >>> >>> -- >>> >>> We would like to ask the IPMC to discuss the following Board resolution >>> to >>> be >>> recommended to the Board. Once your feedback is collected and integrated, >>> we will ask you to vote on the final resolution. Thank you! >>> >>> -- >>> >>> Proposed Board Resolution: >>> >>> Establish the Apache CouchDB project >>> >>> WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best >>> interests of the Foundation and consistent with the >>> Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management >>> Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of >>> open-source software implementing a distributed, fault- >>> tolerant and schema-free document-oriented database for >>> distribution at no charge to the public. >>> >>> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management >>> Committee (PMC), to be known as the "Apache CouchDB Project", >>> be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the >>> Foundation; and be it further >>> >>> RESOLVED, that the Apache CouchDB Project be and hereby is >>> responsible for the creation and maintenance of software >>> related to implementing a distributed, fault-tolerant and >>> schema-free document-oriented database; and be it further >>> >>> RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, CouchDB" be and >>> hereby is created, the person holding such office to serve at >>> the direction of the Board of Directors as the chair of the >>> Apache CouchDB Project, and to have primary responsibility for >>> management of the projects within the scope of responsibility >>> of the Apache CouchDB Project; and be it further >>> >>> RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and >>> hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the >>> Apache CouchDB Project: >>> >>> * J Chris Anderson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) >>> * Damien Katz ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) >>> * Christopher Lenz ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) >>> * Jan Lehnardt ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) >>> * Noah Slater ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) >>> >>> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Damien >>> Katz be appointed to the office of Vice President, CouchDB, to >>> serve in accordance with and subject to the direction of the Board >>> of Directors and the Bylaws of the Foundation until death, >>> resignation, retirement, removal or disqualification, or until >>> a successor is appointed; and be it further >>> >>> RESOLVED, that the initial Apache CouchDB Project be and hereby >>> is tasked with the creation of a set of bylaws intended to >>> encourage open development and increased participation in the >>> CouchDB Project; and be it further >>> >>> RESOLVED, that the initial Apache CouchDB Project be and hereby >>> is tasked with the migration and rationalization of the Apache >>> Incubator CouchDB podling; and be it further >>> >>> RESOLVED, that all responsibility pertaining to the Apache >>> Incubator CouchDB podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator >>> PMC are hereafter discharged. >>> >>> -- >>> >>> Again, thanks for your cooperation! >>> >>> >>> For the Apache CouchDB PPMC, >>> Jan >>> -- >>> PS: Thanks to Noah Slater for proofreading. >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> >>> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
