On May 30, 2008, at 2:23 PM, James Carman wrote:

On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 5:17 PM, Janne Jalkanen
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
As an end user, I would _hate_ to have to change all of my code to
reference a totally new package structure after the podling graduates.
That's a major pain...

With JSPWiki we have plenty of plugins and other extensions donated by people over the years. Every binary break means that we obsolete most of
this stuff (unless we can take the responsibility of recompiling
everything). Every binary break means that we will have to answer questions from people running obsolete software because they can't afford the cost of
the upgrade because they have money invested in the customizations.

So it's not only the pain of upgrading the package definitions; changing packages issues a damaging blow to the ecosystem nurtured in the incubator. Sometimes the impact can be minimal; sometimes it could be rather bad.

The package names have to change when a podling comes into the
incubator (to the org.apache namespace).  So, the "blow" has to happen
anyway.  I'm not suggesting we enforce this for existing podlings
necessarily, but future ones should probably do it.  Once the podling
graduates, the plugins would need to change the package name they use
because they are now based on an official ASF library.  Is
find/replace really that difficult?

Yes, it is. When your entire community and the communities that rely on them have to do it, yes it is. Remember, some podlings incubate for years and so these roots can go way out.

Frankly, I am really, really, surprised that this is being entertained at all.


Regards,
Alan



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