Michael Wechner wrote:
J Aaron Farr wrote:
If the fork wishes to do more than patch up the original or wishes to
create its own identity unique from the Apache original, then it would
be wise to rename the packages, but there is no legal requirement to
do so.
believing you that there is no legal requirement (I am no lawyer ;-),
but that's also my understanding of the ASF license and incubator
agreement), then that's how it is for the moment.
But for the future I think it's in the best interest of the ASF to
think about this more thoroughly, because it can be very misleading if
one is using Java packages with org.apache.*, but this code
- might have nothing to do with the ASF
- might be a fork of existing ASF, but has been changed quite a bit in
the meantime
This is the nature of open source, so I think we have to suck it up. If
someone forks OpenJDK, do you think they are going to change all the
package names to something else?
We have knowingly allowed this because we think it is the right thing to do.
If some company took our code, modified it, and started distributing it
as part of a commercial (but freely downloadable) project, we wouldn't
complain if they encouraged their customers to write to their modified
version of our code as part of their project. So, why would it be any
different if someone was only forking and not including it in a project?
In both cases, the main thing for us is to make sure they clearly state
that it is a fork, not an official Apache project.
-> richard
To me the first step would be to talk to these people and ask them
kindly to change the package names.
If they will change it, then almost everyone will be happy, except
people with dependencies, but that can be fixed by keeping previous
versions available and adding a note.
The problem is when people don't want to change and this is where the
ASF should ask itself "do we care" (well, I do) and if the ASF does
care, then what can be done? Are there legal means? Are there other
means?
Cheers
Michi
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