Niall Asking someone politely to rename the package is hardly throwing our weight around.
Paul On Jan 22, 2008 8:50 PM, Niall Pemberton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Jan 22, 2008 8:27 PM, Paul Fremantle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I agree with the general point about the legality of using the > > org.apache namespace. However, I think there is a significant issue > > here. People assume that org.apache code is from Apache. And the > > reasoning that its too much effort to rename is frankly wrong. Even > > sed could do a decent job and probably sort the problem out. > > > > I think the usage of org.apache should be considered in the same way > > as the Apache Logo - something that the ASF controls rigorously to > > protect our brand image. > > If we throw our weight around that IMO goes against what our own > license permits, then thats going to damage the ASF's "brand image" > and its liberal license. I can't see how this could ever be official > policy, but we should stop saying it until it is. > > Niall > > > > Paul > > > > > > On Jan 22, 2008 8:12 PM, Niall Pemberton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Jan 22, 2008 6:23 PM, Craig L Russell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > I think the terminology in the subject is wrong. > > > > > > > > You are not "moving a failed incubation project." That project is dead. > > > > > > > > What you can do is to use the code in another project, and assume all > > > > responsibility to verify that the license in the code is correct. > > > > > > > > What you can't do is to use the Apache brand for another project, > > > > meaning to use the package names including apache if it's not an > > > > Apache project. > > > > > > I thought the whole point of the AL was that pepople could take code > > > away and do whatever they want with it - it doesn't say in the AL you > > > can "do whatever you want with it as long as you rename the packages". > > > > > > Niall > > > > > > > And please be aware that the code might be tainted. Since it never > > > > left incubation, the code's provenance might never have been vetted. > > > > So you don't really know what you're getting, in terms of ownership, > > > > license, patent, etc. If you use the code you're responsible for > > > > making sure it's really ok. > > > > > > > > Craig > > > > > > > > > > > > On Jan 21, 2008, at 6:23 PM, Hans Granqvist wrote: > > > > > > > > > Hi > > > > > > > > > > I want to move a failed incubation project (TSIK) to Google Code, > > > > > but the source is full of org.apache.* packages, so I'm not sure > > > > > what the right way to do this is. (The code would keep the same > > > > > ASF 2.0 license.) > > > > > > > > > > Changing the package names will break any and all code, so if > > > > > it'd be great if that's avoidable. > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -- Paul Fremantle Co-Founder and VP of Technical Sales, WSO2 OASIS WS-RX TC Co-chair blog: http://pzf.fremantle.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Oxygenating the Web Service Platform", www.wso2.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
