At one point, we had people becoming members of the Incubator PMC by
virtue of being a Mentor or by virtue of a vote of the Incubator PMC.
Did that change? This language implies that the Mentors must be
pre-existing members of the Incubator PMC.

Is there a reason why we are saying "chosen by the Sponsor". In
practice, candidates often troll for Mentors in order to complete the
proposal,  the Sponsor affirms the proposal drafted by the Candidate,
which includes naming the Mentor or Mentors..

The language about reporting to the Sponsor makes it sound like there
are two types of status reports. Why not just suggest CC'ing any
status reports to the Sponsor's mailing list.

-Ted.

On 5/21/07, Craig L Russell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Would this be ok?

Change

Mentors are chosen by the Sponsor to actively monitor the podling,
guide the podling in the Apache Way, and report its status to the
Sponsor and the Incubator PMC. All Mentors must be members of the
Incubator PMC. A Mentor has responsibilities toward the Incubator
PMC, the Sponsor, and the community of the assigned Podling.

to

A Podling has one or more Mentors, one of which MUST be an Apache
Member. Mentors are chosen by the Sponsor to actively monitor the
podling, guide the podling in the Apache Way, and report its status
to the Sponsor and the Incubator PMC. All Mentors must be members of
the Incubator PMC. A Mentor has responsibilities toward the Incubator
PMC, the Sponsor, and the community of the assigned Podling.

If this works for you, I can post an updated patch and re-vote.

Craig

On May 21, 2007, at 1:21 PM, Justin Erenkrantz wrote:

> On 5/21/07, Jim Jagielski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> There is, afaik, still some people who think that having
>> more than one Mentor is unwise (the old saw is more than
>> one mentor means no mentors)... If a podling wishes
>> to have just 1, we should honor that, I think.
>>
>> Therefore I would think some sort of statement such
>> as "The term 'Mentor' is not designed to be either
>> singular or plural, and can either mean a single Mentor
>> or a group of Mentors" or some such thing...
>>
>> I'm not ready to vote on it yet...
>
> Ditto to Jim's comments - multiple mentors are nice, but should not be
> a requirement.  -- justin
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