J Aaron Farr wrote:
On 9/13/06, Justin Erenkrantz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On 9/12/06, Niclas Hedhman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> As Leo pointed out, 'codebase quality' is not a graduation criteria.
And
> (hopefully) with Upayvira as the initial PMC Chair, I am not worried
that the
> PMC will overlook release requirements. If ASF Members feel that to
be a
> concern, they are both free to monitor and participate in the PMC work.
My concern has nothing to do with 'codebase quality', but asking for a
demonstration that the Felix community understands how to conduct a
release that meets the ASF's criteria.
If the community produces a release that is perfect on first shot,
great - they're truly ready to graduate. If not, well, then, they'll
learn from those mistakes and once they can produce a release that
meets our criteria, then they'll be ready to graduate.
Remember that a major task for a TLP is conducting a release.
Therefore, it's reasonable for the Incubator PMC to ask for proof that
they will execute that task successfully rather than taking it on
blind faith. -- justin
And I'm fine with that. I think it's a good idea for Incubating
projects to do at least one release before graduating.
My concerns are:
1) The policy regarding podling releases has never been explicit and
always been conflicting
Originally we (the mentors) and even Noel had told Felix not to worry
about a release within the incubator:
http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-felix-dev/200604.mbox/[EMAIL
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So both mentors and the Incubator PMC Chair told these folks that a
release was not the primary objective for graduation. We explicitly
told them *NOT* to worry about a release until after graduation. And
graduation, we thought, was right around the corner.
2) Let's not (again) fall into the trap of changing the requirements
of graduation (or entry for that matter) on a vote thread
So could we move these discussions to a new thread?
Yeah good idea. Let's start off by discussing whether we make at least
one incubator release a requirement for graduation? I think if we're
going to hold it as a blocker before graduation we must make it a rule
to be absolutely clear.
Alex
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