Andrus and Bill initially opened discussion on [EMAIL PROTECTED] I
suggested they aim for a top level project status for a few reasons:
* Cayenne already has an mature ASF-style structure and community
(reportedly =)
* There are ~subprojects (the gui tool, etc) in Cayenne, and sub-sub-
projects seem to be frowned upon
* DB is getting kind of umbrella shaped already
That said, I am very willing to broach the subject of sponsorship
with the DB PMC, I just figure the discussion of the best way to
proceed makes more sense here. I think that Cayenne would prefer to
be a top level project, in the end, and I agree with that goal. The
best way to help that happen... well, we're discussing all that =)
-Brian
On Feb 25, 2006, at 12:40 PM, Andrus Adamchik wrote:
Hi Yoav,
We've actually looked at the DB option (and are still open to it as
a second choice). The reasoning behind the TLP proposal is that
Cayenne has quite some history as an open source project and we
have a number of subprojects that may not fit into the DB community
scope as there is no database involved.
Cayenne is all these things:
* An object relational mapping framework (ORM). This part similar
in functionality to OJB.
* A framework for remote objects persistence (user API similar to
ORM, but no DB on the backend). I am not even sure how to classify
that ... persistence through web services (??)
* UI tools (ORM tools and tools for object to UI binding)
* [still in the early stages] JPA implementation (JSR-220) - this
is another ORM API, but IMO within Apache it has most synergy with
Geronimo.
In fact we've already presented our proposal to the DB community,
and the consensus seems to be that TLP is a better option:
http://www.mail-archive.com/general@db.apache.org/msg00247.html
Andrus
On Feb 25, 2006, at 11:17 PM, Yoav Shapira wrote:
Hola,
db.apache.org might be a better place for Cayenne than a TLP, no?
It's similar to OJB...
Yoav
On 2/25/06, Andrus Adamchik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hi folks,
We at Cayenne project (http://objectstyle.org/cayenne) would like to
join Apache. We wrote a proposal draft that can be viewed here:
http://objectstyle.org/confluence/display/CAY/ASF+Proposal
Brian McCallister volunteered to help us as a mentor. And now we
need
a Sponsor. I understand that for TLP a sponsor must be either
Incubator PMC or the ASF Board. I am asking for advice on how we can
go about that.
Thanks
Andrus
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Andrei (aka Andrus) Adamchik
Cayenne Persistence Framework
Lead Architect
http://objectstyle.org/cayenne/
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