Dims, I'll take Cory off the hook since he was acting in good faith on
behalf of Sybase :-).
As we are learning, there are a variety of ways to work within the Apache
process as long as the community is supportive. From the Sybase
perspective, we are interested in working with a vibrant community in a
meaningful way that balances the needs of the community with that of our
own.
when we first started thinking about the open source path, we looked at
Agila and communicated with the developers. While the Agila developers were
quite helpful, the project was not open to our contribution and our
assessment was that their existing code line would take substantial work to
bring it up to where we thought we already were.
When we looked at ServiceMix, we found a mature community that not only
appeared open to a contribution such as ours but one which would help us
establish a good affinity with the ESB. The Sybase folks working on this
code line will continue to vigorously support the orchestration component
and provide help in adjacent areas related to SCA.
At this point, we feel comfortable in our contribution to the ServiceMix
project based on the positive uptake. Under the rules of meritocracy, we
will work to ensure that the interfaces remain clean and the build granular
enough to be reused and hope to work with you in the future.
Best Regards,
Bill
-------Original Message-------
From: Davanum Srinivas <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >
Subject: Re: Let's rewind!!! (Re: [VOTE] accept donation of a business
process engine into the ServiceMix project)
Sent: 02 Feb '06 21:12
Cory,
Could you please get James' help and draft a complete proposal?
Please see
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&safe=off&q=incubator+proposal+site%3Awiki.apache.org&btnG=Search
for a list of proposals, their format and their content.
Once the proposal is ready, please post it to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Also,
please take a peek at the documentation on the
http://incubator.apache.org/ site especially w.r.t to the incubation
process, what to expect and steps involved.
thanks,
dims
On 2/2/06, cory < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> BPEL 1.1 is supported. The code works with Axis 1.3.
>
> Sybase wants this code to be successful within the community and is
> going to work to support it.
>
> Cheers,
>
> -cory
>
> On 2/2/06, Davanum Srinivas < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Folks,
> >
> > There is no proposal, there is just a zip, unless someone is a
> > clairvoyant, we can't figure out things like. *PLEASE* CC
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> > - Which specific version of the spec is implemented?
> > - Where are the list of known issues?
> > - Where is the TODO list?
> > - Why is Axis version 1.2 RC1 (and not even Axis 1.2 final even if we
> > forget that the current version is Axis 1.3)
> > - Is there any relation to workflow?
> > - Is there no opportunity for interaction with our Existing
incubation
> > project Agila?
> > - Are there people from sybase who will be working?
> > - Geronimo is becoming an umbrella rapidly and now ServiceMix wants
to
> > be one too?
> > - Why are people talking as though the code is FINAL
> > (Quoting greg - "there is no need to develope a community around
this code")
> > (Quoting Rob - "If you've looked at the proposed donated code, this
> > BPEL engine is complete, I can't see any sense in combining it with
> > something else ?" )
> > - Do *ANY* of the existing servicemix committers know this code
inside out?
> > - If people are not going to touch this contrib code with a barge
pole
> > then why should it be accepted?
> >
> > thanks,
> > dims
> >
> > On 2/2/06, James Strachan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > We have received the generous donation of a complete and working
BPE
> > > engine to the ServiceMix project...
> > > http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/geronimo-servicemix-dev/
> > > 200602.mbox/%
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >
> > > the contributor has offered to donate to Apache & complete the
> > > necessary software grants & IP clearance and to work with us on
> > > integrating it into ServiceMix.
> > >
> > > For those of you maybe not aware; ServiceMIx is an ESB project
> > > defined around JBI (JSR 208) the JCP standard API to integration
> > > components along with being the standard container model for a BPE.
> > > ServiceMix already has the JBI container and has a suite of JBI
> > > integration components already for smart routing, transformation,
> > > rules, scripting, auditing etc...
> > > http://incubator.apache.org/servicemix/Components
> > >
> > > So it makes complete sense to add a BPE to that component suite.
Note
> > > that since ServiceMix already has integration components to Apache
> > > Axis and Apache Tuscany, the integration of the BPE with ServiceMix
> > > should benefit those projects too (with Apache Synapse possibly too
> > > via the Axis integration - though we need to work on that one a
bit).
> > >
> > > Also having a BPE fully integrated into Geronimo via the JBI
> > > container would mean that we could start to orchestrate pretty much
> > > everything in the Geronimo stack! I'm certainly very excited by
this
> > > move...
> > >
> > >
> > > [ ] +1 accept the donation into the ServiceMix incubator project
> > > [ ] 0 don't mind either way
> > > [ ] -1 I object because: .......
> > >
> > >
> > > Here's my +1
> > >
> > > James
> > > -------
> > > http://radio.weblogs.com/0112098/
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Davanum Srinivas : http://wso2.com/blogs/
> >
>
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