On Jun 11, 2004, at 4:33 PM, Steven Noels wrote:

What is your take on the readiness of Lenya to leave the Incubator, and on
the question of putting out a milestone? Just as a reminder, the
distribution would have to be tagged as an incubator distribution, not an
ASF release.

(soapbox-mode)

My take is that - at last, and pushed forward primarily by the group of non-Wyona, newbie committers - the urgent need for release and exit has been recognized and is in the process of being addressed adequately. For one reason or another, this has never been pushed forward by the original donators, but now, the momentum has changed to a positive effect.

All this being considered, I'm +1 on release and consecutively exit from the incubator.

I'll be carefully looking after ASF brand abuse however in the forthcoming months. This entire incubation episode has left me with dubious feelings: for a long time, I've been thinking that Lenya would be a sad example of premature ASF donation.


Uhm, I'm a bit at loss here: how could you suggest an incubator exit *AND* warn against potential brand abuse talking about dubious feelings? If there are any problems (sorry, I don't know Lenya enough to go beyond belly thoughts, so I won't state my inaccurate position here), shouldn't they be faced _inside_ the incubator?

(which brings me to something that I've been wondering for a long time: I understand that incubation has two possible exit codes, but do you *really* envision any project being kicked off the ASF? I could envision a project deciding not to go any further and fail voluntarily incubation, but I just can't imagine the incubator kicking people/projects out. Hmmm... yeah, I should just STFU since I basically don't know a thing about the incubation process, I assume you guys have been through this)

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