I should finally add that we have basically agreed also that the PPMC is made of all PMC members and all the committers+landing PMC members, but that only the mentors must always be subscribed to the ppmc and dev mailing lists.
Yuck, this is terminology overkill. We really need to slow down the introduction of new words to our glossary, we're going to make the lawyers jealous. :)
How about this: The PPMC starts with every Incubator PMC person who wants on the PPMC. New PPMC members are then voted in by the current PPMC members.
It's a start. But you also need the landing PMC members.
Am not so sure about committers. Like you, I think I'd like to see them voted in by the PPMC.
Cheers,
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