Sam Ruby wrote:
> Suppose somebody new contributes 1K lines of quality code a week to
> Maven over the course of a year... and is voted in as a comitter.
> Clearly a CLA is required, but does a PPMC need to be created or
> does the incubator need to be involved?
Of course not, as you well know. He is contributing to an existing ASF
codebase. I assume that this is rhetorical to setup your argument. :-)
> Suppose I write 50K lines of code and it lives on sourceforge for a
> year. Maven takes a liking to it and I contribute it (and in the
> process am made a committer). Clearly a software grant is required,
> but is a PPMC needed or does the incubator need to be involved?
As I understand the Board's creation of the Incubator, yes. Any incoming
codebase must go through the Incubator. I do think that some projects may
be spending too much time in the Incubator, though. Not pointing figuers,
just wondering why some of them haven't completed the necessary steps to
leave.
> Mix scenarios 1&2. Somebody new to the ASF writes the code on
> sourceforge, wishes to donate it to an existing and vibrant
> community, signs both a CLA and a code grant. PPMC? Incubator?
Is this a new project, or a large set of patches for an existing one? If it
is a new sub-project, it has to go through the Incubator. If it is just a
set of patches to be applied into an existing codebase, I don't think that
you could bring it "into" the incubator, but we still have an issue in terms
of making sure that we have clear title to the code.
> My presumption is that existing, healthy communities can be presumed to
> make incremental increases in the number of committers without requiring
> the incubator to be involved
Agreed.
> But I *would* like the incubator to be involved with all code grants and
> with the formation of all new PMCs (by that I mean truly new, not merely
> ones formed by bifircation).
> Does this make sense?
Yes. The only point of difference appears to be the importing of
sub-projects. As I understand it, the Board has said that the existing PMCs
are not to self-incubate incoming codebases. And we should agree that the
Incubator would be happy to release projects as soon as they are ready.
--- Noel
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