On Sat, 2003-11-08 at 16:57, Roy T. Fielding wrote: > I think that producing a single repository, or at least a set of > mechanisms that allow a single storage facility to look like a > repository with multiple interfaces, is a task for infrastructure > and commons to work out (meaning that the people who have interest > in such a thing will work together to minimize the cost to the ASF, > both in terms of bandwidth and volunteer time, under the auspices > of the people responsible for keeping us on the net). We don't > need a separate group for that because it is an internal task, > and there are no IP issues that require a trip through incubator. > > If there are additional software tools that might make useful > Apache products and people to stoke the engines, then we should > incubate those here as new projects. We just need a clear proposal.
So if I understand this correctly the discussions on [EMAIL PROTECTED] should now be conducted on infrastructure where we are talking about the physical layout of the repository in a file system that is accessible via http. While software that may operate on this physical structure is a matter for the various projects whether it be existing code in places like Ant/Maven or new code that is brought to the incubator? Just trying to clarify, is this correct? If so that sounds good to me as the [EMAIL PROTECTED] discussions were getting way out of hand and I would prefer if it were a simple task of defining a physical structure that lends itself to easy access. > I cannot say this enough: umbrella projects are the bane of Apache. > The sooner we get away from the concept of "everybody has to be > concerned with everyone else's projects" and back to each project > governing itself under collaborative principles, the better and > stronger we will be in the long run. Consensus is a good way to > make decisions, not a good way to explore alternative designs. > We need to welcome as many offshoots as possible, albeit with > different names to avoid confusion, and we must always be willing > to learn from each other's mistakes and successes. The essence > Apache philosophy is that we want people to copy what we do, > regardless of why they choose to do so. +1 > ....Roy > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- jvz. Jason van Zyl [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://tambora.zenplex.org In short, man creates for himself a new religion of a rational and technical order to justify his work and to be justified in it. -- Jacques Ellul, The Technological Society --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
