You don't have to believe me of course. Go ask any lawyer worth her salt and she'll tell you the same thing!
> Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2021 at 7:53 PM > From: "Aaron Gyes" <aaron...@icloud.com> > To: "Christopher Dimech" <dim...@gmx.com> > Cc: gcc@gcc.gnu.org > Subject: Re: A suggestion for going forward from the RMS/FSF debate > > If the purpose was to facilitate lawsuits, and these lawsuits haven’t > occurred after all these years, it seems like it didn’t work. Maybe you are > wrong about the intent? > > Aaron > > > On Apr 18, 2021, at 12:50 AM, Christopher Dimech <dim...@gmx.com> wrote: > > > > > > I know that Apple can make some strong ownership claims. Also Red Hat, > > but I consider it minimal. Apple has a very long history of aggressive > > legal actions. > > > >> Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2021 at 7:24 PM > >> From: "Aaron Gyes" <aaron...@icloud.com> > >> To: "Christopher Dimech" <dim...@gmx.com> > >> Subject: Re: A suggestion for going forward from the RMS/FSF debate > >> > >> Can you tell me about some of the lawsuits that resulted? > >> > >> – > >> Aaron > >> > >>> On Apr 18, 2021, at 12:08 AM, Christopher Dimech <dim...@gmx.com> wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>>> > >>>> Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2021 at 5:46 PM > >>>> From: "Aaron Gyes" <aaron...@icloud.com> > >>>> To: "Christopher Dimech" <dim...@gmx.com> > >>>> Subject: Re: A suggestion for going forward from the RMS/FSF debate > >>>> > >>>>> Furthermore, it continues to nullify the Apache License by allowing > >>>>> patent > >>>>> treachery. The LLVM License is thus a perfidious license intended to > >>>>> allow the licensor to sue you at their choosing.= > >>>> > >>>> “Patent treachery”? And the intent of the license is to... accommodate > >>>> lawsuits? > >>> > >>> Correct. The Apache License included certain patent termination and > >>> counterclaim provisions, made void and null by the LLVM Exceptions. > >>> Originally, the LLVM License > >>> was based on the two free software licenses - the X11 license and the > >>> 3-clause BSD license. By 2005, Apple managed to hamstring the project by > >>> hiring Chris Lattner > >>> and giving him a team to work on LLVM. > >>> > >>>> That’s some very motivated reasoning you’re doing right there. > >>>> > >>>> Aaron > >> > >
