> Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2021 at 5:09 AM > From: "Jeff Law via Gcc" <gcc@gcc.gnu.org> > To: "Jonathan Wakely" <jwakely....@gmail.com>, "Thomas Koenig" > <tkoe...@netcologne.de> > Cc: "gcc@gcc.gnu.org" <gcc@gcc.gnu.org> > Subject: Re: removing toxic emailers > > > On 4/14/2021 8:49 AM, Jonathan Wakely via Gcc wrote: > > On Wed, 14 Apr 2021 at 15:39, Thomas Koenig wrote: > >> On 14.04.21 15:18, Eric S. Raymond wrote: > >>> A strong norm about off-list behavior and politics being > >>> out of bounds here is also helpful. > >> That would have banned the whole discussion about the potential > >> fork from the start. > > No, because once again, I raised the topic of a fork because I do not > > feel that association with GNU or FSF benefits the GCC project. I did > > not say "we have to cancel them because I don't like their politics" > > (as it happens, I do like their politics, which is why I've spent two > > decades writing copyleft code for GCC, I just think they have failed > > to evolve and are sadly irrelevant today). > > [ Speaking for myself, not the steering committee or my employer... ] > > > Well said (and I'm not being sarcastic). While my politics may not line > up 100% with those of the FSF, GNU project or RMS, they have been close > enough for me to spend 30+ years of my life working on GNU tools. I > agree with you Jon that the organizations and RMS personally have failed > to evolve - Jeff I have been involved in discussions arising from a failure to evolve, I can't deny it. Eventually things get rectified, but there is a problem of things taking too long. On the other hand forcing people hard won't work. So I do live with quite some inconveniences.
Still, I find that things bended in the right way decade-by-decade. Day-by-Day - things oscillate. Christopher
