On 12/27/2014 08:03 PM, Jonathan Wakely wrote:
On 28 December 2014 at 00:08, Olaf van der Spek  wrote:
On 26-12-2014 1:52, Jonathan Wakely wrote:
On 25 December 2014 at 16:28, Olaf van der Spek wrote:
Hi,

https://gcc.gnu.org/ links to https://gcc.gnu.org/gcc-5/ (GCC 5 C++14
language feature-complete [2014-12-23]) which doesn't exist.

It should probably be https://gcc.gnu.org/gcc-5/status.html
(As already said, I meant https://gcc.gnu.org/gcc-5/changes.html there)

I don't think that's right, it should link to a page like
https://gcc.gnu.org/gcc-4.8/
Ah, I don't think that will exist until it's released.

Important: Because the final ISO C++14 standard was only recently
published, GCC's support is experimental.

Is C++11 support no longer experimental?

That hasn't changed yet, but it should be announced on
https://gcc.gnu.org/gcc-5/status.html when it does.

Okay, but shouldn't that be reflected in the announcement?
I doesn't mention the experimental status at all.
Which announcement, the C++14 one?
Why should that say anything about the status of C++11?

The note about C++14 conformance is great as it stands modulo link errors.

The note on C++14 conformance referred to is not the place for this but: is our C++11 support really less tested and more experimental than our C++03 support at this point? One thing I can think of might be gcc bootstrap.

I could be wrong but I sense the subtext of the OP is perhaps a request for a roadmap and guidance for which C++ language version is best supported. We can't offer a roadmap on default language until we have a big conversation and exploration of technical issues.

I imagine we should at least wait until C++11 ABI churn has died down.
We need to build gcc with C++11/C++14 turned on to work out build kinks (I admit I haven't pushed this as hard as I had hoped).
Then a big talk of gcc version - default C++ version.

Ed

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