On Thu, 2005-10-20 at 12:11 +0200, Arnaud Charlet wrote: > Same for saying "this will be improved in the next version of svn". > It is assuming that upgrading versions of svn clients for people is a no > cost operation, which is again not the case in practice. > > And maybe if svn 1.4 will improve such important improvements, it would > be a good idea to wait till svn 1.4 is outt so that people do not have to > upgrade multiple times to get "the expected" behavior.
Each version of svn will have important improvements, or else we wouldn't give them major version numbers. The thing i've discovered is that people will always find some issue that bothers them, and raise it as "a major issue". This is because try as you might, there *will be some workflow differences between cvs and svn*. This was true when we considered switching to svn 1.2, for example. The reality is also that what your expectations are, are different than what the expectations of others are. All i can promise you is that i am busily coding solutions to the issues people have raised. So far, the feedback process has looked like: 1. I've given people months to consider the change, it's not until the last few days that anybody who seems to complain even bothers to try it. 2. They then proceed to say "oh, we should wait another year till the world is perfect". 3. We wait, next year comes, things are improved, but the world is still not perfect. Meanwhile, switching becomes harder due to things you have to emulate, and people getting more ingrained in the current tool workflow. 4. Go to 1. I don't say this because it isn't obvious, i say it because: If i had been given feedback anytime between February and roughly the middle of September, fixes for these issues would have been in subversion 1.3. In fact, the few issues raised to be so far in that time period (speed of svn annotate, etc) were fixed by me, in subversion 1.3. I have absolutely no reason to expect the feedback process to change if we waited. I have absolutely no reason to believe this won't happen again when svn 1.4 comes out. It does not take long to fix these issues. The entire repo disk space issue should be fixed within 1 week, and the entire repo should take about 4-5 gig when i am done. Also, just FYI: >(e.g. I see references to svn 1.4 while the latest > official release is 1.2.3). 1.3 should be out within 1 month. The first RC should be rolled in a day or two. --Dan
