Hi Segher,

On Wed, Jun 11, 2025 at 10:40:02AM -0500, Segher Boessenkool wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 04, 2025 at 05:53:18PM -0600, Jeff Law via Gcc wrote:
> > On 6/3/25 1:41 PM, David Edelsohn via Gcc wrote:
> > >What is not working with the current system?  What is this fixing?
> > It relies on the someone to shepherd the process and it's something that 
> > often gets pushed down on my daily todo list.  As a result nominations 
> > don't happen or are extremely delayed.
> > 
> > Additionally there's no visibility into the process.  It's a total black 
> > hole, particularly for cases where I'm on point.
> > 
> > This isn't necessarily a steering committee problem, but a time problem.
> > 
> > If we make things simpler for those cases where it is actually simple 
> > and increase visibility so that folks know state I think it would be a 
> > welcome improvement to the process.
> 
> Yup.  And it might not be a bad plan to get some people who still are
> active onto the GCC steering committee, as well!
> 
> It is as important now as ever that there *is* such a thing as the SC:
> all decisions need to be taken responsibiliity for by some final
> authority, which we (as a project) have all decided to have that
> authority.

Agreed, having active developers taking responsibility is
important. But it doesn't really have to be through a steering
committee imho. We (as a project) can decide that the authority lies
with the active maintainers as a whole getting to concensus. Just like
any maintainer can appoint new write after approval accounts. Or, as
in this case, the active maintainers of a subsystem decide on who else
becomes a reviewer or maintainer for that subsystem. The release
managers could decide if and when to accept a new front or
backend. etc.

The glibc project decided to simply dissolve their steering committee:
https://inbox.sourceware.org/20120326215305.048832c...@topped-with-meat.com
The GNU package maintainers don't have any extra ability to make
decisions. All major project decisions are made by community consensus:
https://inbox.sourceware.org/pine.lnx.4.64.1203262157410.23...@digraph.polyomino.org.uk

Cheers,

Mark

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