I think Sujit just needed to talk. It is not easy living with a conflict like that inside you. We could listen and if we have something kind to say, be supportive. Otherwise we just need to shut up and listen instead of pontifying. Manu/Bangkok
________________________________ From: "drsam...@yahoo.com" <drsam...@yahoo.com> To: gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, 18 March 2012 3:57 PM Subject: Re: g_b Re: Why this "kolaveri"? True! Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone ________________________________ From: Aditya Bondyopadhyay <adit.b...@gmail.com> Sender: gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2012 05:50:45 +0900 To: <gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com> ReplyTo: gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: g_b Re: Why this "kolaveri"? Padke Maja Aaya...par why bother Deep...these likes will not even understand...they have 5 cells of gray matter in total, all residing in their dick-head.. On 18 March 2012 02:48, Deep <gaymanprou...@yahoo.co.in> wrote: >Sujit your ideas and concepts about love, fidelity, morality and life in >general are so alien to mine that I find it hard to scrape out even an ounce >of empathy for you. Do we actually belong to the same LGBT group? Why are our >bravehearts fighting against 377 in the SC at this moment? To uphold the >dignity of people like you? Are you for real? I have to shudder and shake >my head in disbelief. > > >So you don't feel bisexuals can be monogamous "by definition"? Methinks you >give a bad name to bisexuals. That name is CHEAT. And according to your flawed >logic MSM relations are purely "transaction" based. Gay/lesbian commitment, >love, fidelity, etc., seem not to exist in your dictionary. Gosh! you give >gays a bad name too. > > >You feel monogamy is not the norm and exists "in theory" in most cultures and >religions? I guess you'll have to Google a bit more. You'll need to seek >farther than "the natural chemistry between (your) legs" (sic), I am afraid. >Methinks you have some pretty weird Chemistry going on in your brains, to be >sure. Don't you think Sujit that the world is, in reality, one large brothel? > > >You have spent 17 years in a heterosexual marriage and, assuming you have a >teenage son, you must have managed to teach quite a lot to your son about Life >by now. I wonder what would happen if you bumped into him one of these days on >Planet Romeo or worse. Why don't you take your family for an outing to some of >those cruising spots that you have probably been haunting for the past four >years? You give a new meaning to the term "7 year itch". Except in your case, >it's not just an itch, it's a severe case of eczema. > > > >I have attempted to strike up polite online conversations with insistent >creeps (I am afraid there's no other descriptive word which comes to my mind) >like you on dating sites. My profile has been "hit on" quite a few times by >*&^%$ such as you despite my "bi's and call boys keep away" warning signs >splashed all over. Invariably they want to satisfy their urges ASAP. I >distinctly remember the conversation I had a few years ago with one such >denizen of the twilight world: "I am completely gay. My wife and daughters are >out to watch picture this afternoon. You come to my house. I satisfy you >completely. I am completely gay"(sic). Some hornies actually read my profile >and offer their hand in 'love'. Mercifully my Mac's keyboard is vomit-proof. I >want to find out what makes you guys tick. At 48 can a man be ruled by his >penis as much as you are? Does the brain atrophy? Or is this an early onset of >senility? > > >Sooner or later your kind gets into a "call boy", "maalish waalaa" or "maamoo" >extortion trap. Then you scream 'bloody murder!' and expect gay activists to >pull you out of the cesspool of your making. I can't believe that any self >respecting gay man would like to be friends with you, but then again, it takes >all kinds to make the world. You could try enticing the call boys with moolah. >Just be careful wifey dearest and sonny boy don't catch you satisfying your >'natural chemical urges' on your marital bed. Till the time you can avoid that >catastrophe, you ROCK ON uncle! (chinta mat karna kaka, Viagra gutak lena!) > > >And once your lad turns 18 do gift him a subscription to Planet Romeo and a >username/password for this mailing list, won't you? A dildo would make a nice >gift for him too. Wrap it in pink glossy paper with the words "From Your Horny >Daddy, With Hard Love" (email me if you need more ideas for loving messages >from you). > > >Are you sure you haven't started injecting some industrial strength chemicals >into yourself or smoking some strange plants? Just asking. > > >I promise to send you the names and email ids of hard working psychiatrists if >you promise to clamp a steel clothes clip over your hyperactive ding dong from >the time you read this till the shrink cures you COMPLETELY. Have you heard of >chemical castrations Sujit? > > >In deep abhorrence, >Deep > > > > >--- In gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com, "sbdary" <sbdary@...> wrote: >> >> While many of you may still remember the song, the word "kolaveri" means a >> "killing rage". I choose to ask this question rather metaphorically, looking >> at the amount of mails that have come pouring in from many directions in >> response to that rather "unfortunate" mail from "Style_me92" >> >> OK, so here are some points that strike my mind. >> >> First off, this is a forum for LGBT, right? Or is this a forum for lesbians >> and gays only? If this forum does, indeed, welcome "bisexuals" then, by >> definition, we're talking of a people who are attracted to males as well as >> females (or vice versa). Where, then, does a "monogamous" relationship exist >> for such people? >> >> Second, to take a leaf out of the Supreme Court case and Sec. 377 of the IPC >> - for all that we speak of the fact that homosexuality is NOT "unnatural" or >> against the order of "God" etc, does "monogamy" exist in "nature"? Granted, >> some species of animals have indeed exhibited monogamous traits, the reality >> is that a vast majority of animals (including homo-sapiens) are inherently >> not monogamous. "Marriage" and "monogamy" are acquired traits, a state of >> affairs that have been brought about by man in order to lead a slightly less >> conflict filled life (as opposed to total laissez faire or anarchy) If we >> were to go back to even a few hundred years in India, polygamy was not just >> acceptable but was, perhaps the norm. Ditto, other cultures, other religions. >> >> Given that most homosexual people remain apprehensive about "coming out" and >> would rather remain "closeted" it seems to me that MSM relationships would, >> in most cases, remain "transactional" depending on opportunity/availability >> rather than relationship based. >> >> Another point that occurs to me, and this from my own experience, is this: I >> am now 48 years of age and have become aware of my physical attraction to >> other men only 3or 4 years back. I married when I was 27 - for almost 17 >> years after marriage I did not even imagine that I would one day enjoy sex >> with another man. So, where does all the heated opinions about being "loyal" >> to one's partner leave someone like me? I understand, at a theoretical >> level, the need to be "honest" to my relationship with my wife and not to >> "cheat" her - but is that of any practical help? Do I then convince myself >> that my attraction to other men is "unnatural" and "against the wishes of >> God"? Fact is, since I am married, I am conscious of my "responsibilities" >> to my wife and my son - so, divorce is not an option. Getting into a >> "relationship" with another man is also not an option for I haven't found >> such a person. But this "natural" chemistry between my legs needs an outlet - so, where does that leave me? >> >> I speak for myself here - but am sure I speak for many others as well. >> >> Looking forward to a flood of mails :) >> >> Sujit >> > -- -- ADITYA BONDYOPADHYAY Development Sector Consultant Advocate (Regd. No. F-218/192 of 1997, Bar Council of W.Bengal, India) Website: http://adityabondyopadhyay.webs.com/ ================================ Notice to all recipients: Communication not intended for you but reaching you inadvertently needs to be treated as confidential and destroyed or deleted immediately. 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