Hi Josh, To be clear here, do you think that Leonardo Da Vinci did not get paid for his art?
He most certainly did. He was not only given a studio from his father, but also had several commissions. (some of these are his famous works which you would know) He was also given a house by Francis I. This notion that somehow artists should not be compensated for their work or that they somehow should not need to be is in my opinion, misguided at the very best, and is more often than not, outright dangerous / destructive. This does not mean that people should not follow their passions simply for passion's sake, but that the decent thing to do is award people for contributing these passions to the world. There is absolutely nothing wrong with taking compensation for something useful / helpful. When the world demands payment for an artist / scientist etc to have food and shelter for themselves / their families, there is no loss of nobility in said artist accepting compensation for the joy they provide for the world. Have a lovely night / holiday season! Cheers! Cara --- iOS design and development - LookTel.com --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn Follow me on Twitter! https://twitter.com/ModelCara On Dec 16, 2014, at 7:48 PM, Josh k <[email protected]> wrote: the incentive would not be for money. it would be to create a great audio game that everyone could enjoy including yourself. it could be donationware. I myself live in a small town in PA. I have a small very part time business fixing and selling computers. think of it this way. did leonardo da vinci create his art so he could get rich? no. he created it because he enjoyed creating things using various art forms.programming is more of an art or maybe something like a combination of art and science. the people here in PA who make the butter sculpture for the farm show do it every year because they enjoy it. It gives them happiness and joy that others are enjoying and appreciating their work. I really think that if and yes its sad but true but if audio game developers expect to make big fulltime wages from audio games. it just won't happen. make games because you're an artist/scientist and because you enjoy it. the money is just a side effect. make them at least freeware like jim does b ut include a donation option. On 12/16/2014 5:01 PM, Thomas Ward wrote: > Hi Michael, > > I see where you are going with this, and my first question is do you > realize how long it would take to create anything like Sryth as a > proper audio game? > > Sryth as it stands now is a browser based text game, and it has taken > the better part of a decade to get where it is now. An audio game > would even take longer because it requires a whole lot more > programming if we add in text to speech, sounds, and music. Even were > I to start on such a project this very evening I doubt I would be able > to cover a quarter of the content in Sryth by this time next year > which leads to the next problem/issue. > > Given the fact that an audio game on par with Sryth would be an > extremely time consuming project what incentive would there be for me > to put that much time and effort into it? > > I probably wouldn't make enough money off of it to justify working on > it 8 hours a day for a year or more, and I'd likely be giving up > opportunities to read books, watch movies, play other games while > developing said game so am not certain I'd really want the hassle. So > unless there is a motive or incentive to do it I doubt you'll find a > game developer willing to do it unless they are getting something out > of the bargain. > > While I see where you are going with this I have a feeling if you > really and truly want an RPG game that bad you might have to bite the > bullet and write one your self. Not everyone is as passionate or as > interested in creating one as you apparently are, and you can't expect > developers to just drop everything and write one. It isn't that we > aren't sympathetic, but not everyone has the time, the money, or the > desire to write a highly complex RPG of the type you are asking for. > > Cheers! > > > On 12/16/14, Michael Gauler <[email protected]> wrote: >> You are probably right Dark. >> However what I meanth was not that we don't get new things, since we do even >> >> with different mechanics. >> But let me say it a bit different. >> You probably know Sryth, right? >> Imagine how it could be if you got this game on your PC (not a browser game) >> >> with a proper audio environment. >> Of course this game has been out for years and probably will remain as a >> browser game. >> However since some people know this genre of game, I wonder why the only >> commercial audio RPGs we have are Paladin of the Sky and Entombed. >> And while these titles are great and their developers did great jobs in >> making them, you can't create your own expansions for both games, neither am >> >> I aware of the availability of paid expansions for said game. >> It is like with ESP Pinball Extreme where you had the Pinball Party Pack >> which supposedly was meant to be the first expansion with more to follow >> later on. >> But up to this point there was no further release announced up to this >> point. >> >> >> --- >> Gamers mailing list __ [email protected] >> If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to >> [email protected]. >> You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >> http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >> All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]. >> If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, >> please send E-mail to [email protected]. >> > --- > Gamers mailing list __ [email protected] > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [email protected]. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, > please send E-mail to [email protected]. --- Gamers mailing list __ [email protected] If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [email protected]. 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