Hi Nicole,
  I'm sure no-one will deny losing family members isn't a traumatic 
experience. But honestly, that doesn't give Ivan an excuse to take 
something and call it his own.
He may not have the sounds any more, but his dragon game is certainly 
too much like Superliam to pass off as simply co-incidental.  I mean, 
even having the acts makes it suss.
If Ivan has caused this amount of drama and off-list drama with the 
mods repeatedly, there's obviously very good reason why his band.
At 07:09 PM 14/01/2007, you wrote:

>Hay guys please understand ivan's situation. The boy lost his dad and his
>brother. He is  really a trauma case. He's not himself. John, his mentor
>assured me that ivan isn't using liam's sounds anymore. Ivan begged so many
>times to  get back onto  this list.
>It happened all like this: one day I received out of the blue a message from
>ivan threatening me that he will ban me from  his list. He accused me of
>jumping down him. So I wrote him a straight forward message back telling him
>that he is  the guilty one, he stole another dev's ideas AND NOW HE WANTS TO
>BAN ME FROM his list while  I'm innoscent. I told him that in  south Africa
>kids who did something like that were either prisoned or  spanked. john and
>ivan begged me to please understand that he is going through a lot of
>trauma.
>Ivan has begged me so many times to ask Thomas to put him back on list. If
>one goes through trauma you are not yourself and you do things that you
>won't do if you were not in trauma. Ivan noticed his mistake and once again
>john assured me he left liam's sounds.
>So this is the contact I had with ivan and what I can tell you guys .
>Please give him another chance. Although it might sound like liams's sounds,
>john  assured me it isn't.
>
>-----Original Message-----
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>Behalf Of Thomas Ward
>Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2007 9:19 AM
>To: Gamers Discussion list
>Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Dragon Warrior
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>Hi Josh and all,
>I am not certain that Dragon Warrior is an actual game. Previously, on
>this list Ivan, the aledged developer of Dragon Warrior, took Liam's
>game Super Liam, modified the sounds, and attempted to pass it off as
>Dragon Warrior. It was one of the factors that wound up getting him
>banned from this forem.
>According to the recent podcast it still seams like Super Liam with a
>bunch of new sounds added, and a few other nifty tricks to throw you
>off. So bottom line I really don't trust Ivan or his word very much.
>One other thing is in the last Audyssey magazine I remember someone else
>was supposed to be designing Dragon Warrior, and that person and company
>was not Ivan. My guess is Ivan took the name of an unfinished game and
>slapped it on his aledged creation.
>Sorry folks to be so negative about this, but I just can't trust him
>much after his last endever on this forem.
>Smile.
>
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