Hi Rachel and all,
Here is a very simple example of one of the things Ivan was doing prier 
to being banned from this list.
While he was on moderated status he would advertise there was a demo or 
a trailer of Dragon Warriors up on such and such asight.One time he even 
said Raul had the DW trailer on Raul's sight.
Before aproving the messages Raul and I investigated the messages and 
found in those instances there was nothing there. Ivan was publisising 
something that didn't exist.
Well, he begged Raul to put his dw trailer up, and never sent it to Raul 
even though Raul had asked for it many times. When the trailer did come 
it was definately Super Liam with some sound changes, and the recording 
slowed way down.
 That is only a very miner example of the kinds of things Ivan was doing 
off list, and trying to send to the list, but we blocked them, and 
handled all of it behind the seens.
I'd like to end on this note. Neither Kevin, Raul, or myself hold 
anything personal against Ivan. We do however have rules for all listers 
to follow, and Ivan was one who constantly broke the rules, and when we 
tried to talk to him about breaking the rules, Ivan behaved very 
disrespectfully to us, and his lack of respect ended up in his dismissile.



Rachel D Keyte wrote:
> Hi Nicole,
>   I'm sure no-one will deny losing family members isn't a traumatic 
> experience. But honestly, that doesn't give Ivan an excuse to take 
> something and call it his own.
> He may not have the sounds any more, but his dragon game is certainly 
> too much like Superliam to pass off as simply co-incidental.  I mean, 
> even having the acts makes it suss.
> If Ivan has caused this amount of drama and off-list drama with the 
> mods repeatedly, there's obviously very good reason why his band.
>   


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