yeah I aggree the ribbons and searchboxes I took a while to get used
to but now I can't do without them in some situations.
At 10:54 AM 5/1/2013, you wrote:
wow, I just read through all of this.
personally, I agree mostly with Thom and Josh, and while I definitely
understand that there are those who do not have the money to upgrade
their system regularly, I do think the VI community needs to try and
adapt more as a whole, rather than staying safe by staying with
windows 98 for example.
That's my opinion, though.
To be honest, I usually stay with a computer until either it breaks,
or if there's a sufficient reason to upgrade.
for instance, i had windows xp thanks to school and college up to
around 2011, by which time I needed a computer of my own so went to
windows 7.
Now i'll be the first to admit that while i'm not a fan of the ribbon
structure in word and other applications, i'm perfectly happy to work
around it, indeed its quite simple once you get used to it.
I actually can't wait to get a mac after university, though. there
just seems so many benefits and it costs the same amount i'd pay if
not more than a computer plus jaws or any other commercial reader that
is more widely supported by developers, although NVDA is getting
there. Admitedly i can't play emon delux which really irritates me as
i don't think i've got enough ram (4 gb) to make it run smoothly, I
think it'll be great for gaming when more of us do eventually upgrade.
on a complete side-note Josh, your Draconis intro is fantastic. If
you ever make an rpg with dragons making that sound, I'll donate every
month of the year. :D
On 4/30/13, Dallas O'Brien <dallas.r.obr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Unfortunately, one problem with the touchscreen idea, is that as of yet,
> it's not as effective in windows as we would probably like.
Certainly not as
> usable as an iPhone, or a Mac with a touchpad. However, I'm sure that this
> will increase as time goes by. NVDA is getting there, but it still quite
> basic. Narrator works relatively well, but obviously it limited
by narrators
> own limitations as to what it can access. However when using apps
and things
> that narrator can deal with quite well, the touchscreen access
with narrator
> works very efficiently.
> Regards:
> Dallas
>
>
> On 01/05/2013, at 6:37, "dark" <d...@xgam.org> wrote:
>
>> Hi tom.
>>
>> touchscreens are the rub however with that one and why I don't want to
>> completely dismiss windows eight, since I do indeed like the touchscreen
>> interface on ios which has an icon setup much as you describe windows 8
>> having, which would I agree be a nightmare with arrows but is great with a
>> touch screen and speech.
>>
>> Another part of this however, particularly where things like ribbons are
>> concerned, is why should! a user bother learning a new interface, ---- or
>> to put it a little less bluntly, what extra bennifits are provided with
>> windows 7 or 8 that xp doesn't have, ie, what more will it do for me that
>> justify the time spend learning all this.
>>
>> in the case of the Ios screen this was clear. if I wanted to play games
>> like king of dragon pass, as well as access phone functions like text
>> messages, siri etc, I had to learn the interface, there was a clear
>> bennifit to doing so. What however does windows 8 do that xp doesn't that
>> justifies a persons time?
>>
>> This is more than just an idle question. For a visually impared user,
>> naturally stuff is more difficult, that is part of life, this means
>> however that a person needs to pick their battles a little more carefully
>> and is my point as to windows 7.
>>
>> As you've already said, the practical functionality isn't that much over
>> xp, all it provides is extra trouble and work to learn, so why should!
>> people take the trouble for something that they can do anyway?
>>
>> Windows 8 might be another beast entirely since touchscreens have a
>> different set of bennifits to keyboards, which is why I will likely wait
>> to try windows 8 (and specifically windows 8 with a touch screen), before
>> making up my mind entirely on the subject.
>>
>> Beware the Grue!
>>
>> dark.
>>
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