-- Jaimos F Skriletz <jai...@diamond.boisestate.edu> [2013-09-06 13:11:35 -0600]: > On 09/06/2013 12:06 PM, Bert Geens wrote: > >Thomas Adam <tho...@fvwm.org> writes: > > > >>Hi Dan, > >> > >>On Thu, Sep 05, 2013 at 09:58:36PM -0400, Dan Espen wrote: > >>>Thomas Adam <tho...@fvwm.org> writes: > >>> > >>>>Hi all, > >>>> > >>>>Given my diminishing work on FVWM, I need to think about handing over the > >>>>FVWM Forums [1] and the FVWM Wiki [2]. I cannot devote the time needed > >>>>for > >>>>their maintenance, nor do I want to act as a point of contact for them > >>>>anymore. > >>> From my point of view, I'd have no problem with closing them down. > >>>If you could direct users to the mailing lists, that would be a good > >>>thing. > >>That'd be the simplest solution, yes. But I'm unclear how many users of > >>FVWM and the forums would welcome that. I was always in favour of closing > >>it down, but it exists _because_ it's what people wanetd, and still do, from > >>what I can tell. They're certainly a lot busier than fvwm@ in terms of > >>questions. > >> > >The barrier to sending questions to mailinglists certainly is a lot > >higher for most people than posting to a forum (whether this is is an > >imaginary barrier or not is, in the end, irrelevant), which is the > >main reason I set up the Fvwm forums back then. > > > >If need be I will take over maintaining the forums again. The software > >is relatively low maintenance (certainly compared to the horror that was > >phpBB2). It would be nice if there would be some more knowledgeable > >moderators, my personal use of Fvwm is, to say the least, pretty basic. > > > >While I don't foresee a repeat of the issue that forced Thomas to take > >over maintaining the forum software it would certainly be nice if > >hosting could remain somewhere where more people have access to it in > >case of emergency. In other words, if Jaimos doesn't mind it would be > >nice if the forums could stay where they currently are. > >> > >>The wiki is less important, but there's a lot of documentation which I feel > >>should make it in to the man pages somewhere if someone is wanting to do > >>that. > >> > >It would be a shame to lose the information stored in the wiki, I find > >it often more to the point that having to distill that same information > >form the manpage (assuming it's in there at all). > > For the time being I see no reason I cannot keep hosting the forums > and host the wiki as well. This could change in the future (but I > don't foresee such an event) and I would prefer to host if someone I > have known via #fvwm or in the fvwm community for a while took > charge of what little maintenance there is on the admin side. As for > getting some more moderators for the forums themselves that could be > useful and moderators do not need any access to the servers. > > I could help Bert with anything on the admin side of the server and > keeping phpBB3 up and secure, but I too only use the very basic > features of fvwm and don't want to be a moderator on the forums. > > One thing that could be useful on my end to save a small issue we > had when I changed servers was having control of the domain names. I > consider them part of the fvwm community but if I end up keep > hosting the forums and the wiki it just saves time and hassle if I > can access and control them directly instead of waiting for the > owner of them to update DNS records and the likes. >
Not sure if this is of any help, but will offer it anyway. I use a commercial-grade webserver for my private use, website and email (paid service.) It's been very reliable, almost zero downtime in my experience. Under the terms of service, I'm permitted to use it for just about anything other than very high-traffic or paid commerical use. So I'd be more than happy to create a website under my personal account -- the site naming is flexible, it could be something like fvwm.foo.bar or or foo.bar.fvwm, or variations like that -- and host any of the present FVWM informational services (Wiki, etc.). I'm already paying for the service, so it's no cost increment to me. The caveat is that there is almost no ability to actually administer the files served, other than perhaps editing CGI scripts. I know zilch about Wikis and about what capabilities would be required in order to administer one effectively, so maybe this is a silly and useless offer. But, if it is of any value to simply have a more or less passive but high-quality server, just let me know. Btw, if someone has time, please educate me (and others) as to what capabilities are needed in order to perform the necessary administration. Glenn
