On 09/06/2013 12:06 PM, Bert Geens wrote:
Thomas Adam <tho...@fvwm.org> writes:

Hi Dan,

On Thu, Sep 05, 2013 at 09:58:36PM -0400, Dan Espen wrote:
Thomas Adam <tho...@fvwm.org> writes:

Hi all,

Given my diminishing work on FVWM, I need to think about handing over the
FVWM Forums [1] and the FVWM Wiki [2].  I cannot devote the time needed for
their maintenance, nor do I want to act as a point of contact for them
anymore.
 From my point of view, I'd have no problem with closing them down.
If you could direct users to the mailing lists, that would be a good
thing.
That'd be the simplest solution, yes.  But I'm unclear how many users of
FVWM and the forums would welcome that.  I was always in favour of closing
it down, but it exists _because_ it's what people wanetd, and still do, from
what I can tell.  They're certainly a lot busier than fvwm@ in terms of
questions.

The barrier to sending questions to mailinglists certainly is a lot
higher for most people than posting to a forum (whether this is is an
imaginary barrier or not is, in the end, irrelevant), which is the
main reason I set up the Fvwm forums back then.

If need be I will take over maintaining the forums again. The software
is relatively low maintenance (certainly compared to the horror that was
phpBB2). It would be nice if there would be some more knowledgeable
moderators, my personal use of Fvwm is, to say the least, pretty basic.

While I don't foresee a repeat of the issue that forced Thomas to take
over maintaining the forum software it would certainly be nice if
hosting could remain somewhere where more people have access to it in
case of emergency. In other words, if Jaimos doesn't mind it would be
nice if the forums could stay where they currently are.

The wiki is less important, but there's a lot of documentation which I feel
should make it in to the man pages somewhere if someone is wanting to do
that.

It would be a shame to lose the information stored in the wiki, I find
it often more to the point that having to distill that same information
form the manpage (assuming it's in there at all).

For the time being I see no reason I cannot keep hosting the forums and host the wiki as well. This could change in the future (but I don't foresee such an event) and I would prefer to host if someone I have known via #fvwm or in the fvwm community for a while took charge of what little maintenance there is on the admin side. As for getting some more moderators for the forums themselves that could be useful and moderators do not need any access to the servers.

I could help Bert with anything on the admin side of the server and keeping phpBB3 up and secure, but I too only use the very basic features of fvwm and don't want to be a moderator on the forums.

One thing that could be useful on my end to save a small issue we had when I changed servers was having control of the domain names. I consider them part of the fvwm community but if I end up keep hosting the forums and the wiki it just saves time and hassle if I can access and control them directly instead of waiting for the owner of them to update DNS records and the likes.

jaimos


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