On 7/14/05, Lukas Ruf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > seventh guardian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005-07-14 22:59]: > > > > ** The base directory spec: move ~/.fvwm/ to $XDG_CONFIG_HOME/fvwm/ > > (defaults to ~/.config/fvwm/) > > > > This could easilly be implemented and would benefit everyone, by > > uncluttering the home dir. If the devs don't mind, it could be used > > instead of ~/.fvwm/ .. > > > > I oppose to that! Except if ~/.fvwm is somehow configurable. Imagine > all the large installation bases that are used to ~/.fvwm >
Of course we should be able to choose. But the official place should go by the xdg spec (at least the way I see it..). Ultimatelly $XDG_CONFIG_HOME could be set to $HOME or any dir of your liking.. I challenge you to do "ls ~ -la". I bet you would be lost. Having a program configuration dir would help to sort things out, and would benefit every one. Things keep changing, no matter what. For instance, the ".fvwm2rc" file changed recently to "config". Old installations work because backward compatibility was maintained. That could also be done here.. But eventually all this backward compat will be removed in the future. > > > > ** The autostart spec (currently a draft): have a > > $XDG_CONFIG_HOME/autostart/ dir, a place where .desktop files could be > > placed to autostart programs. > > > > fvwm does have that. It depends on what you have configured in your > /etc/X11/fvwm/system.fvwm2rc > Yes, but not even close to "out-of-the-box". Also I don't think fvwm understands .desktop files by his own. You need to have some external app to do that. > > > > ** The menu spec: have a $XDG_CONFIG_HOME/menu/ where installed apps > > put their menus items in. > > > fvwm does have that. It depends on what you have configured in your > /etc/X11/fvwm/system.fvwm2rc > Like I said.. Also, I didn't suggest us to change the fvwm code, just to provide some external apps/modules for those tasks, something that one could just call from the config. > > ** The trash dir spec. > > > > Ok, not so much we could do related to fvwm :P but some desklets could > > implement it :) > > > > I really like fvwm since I used it first back in 1995 (or so, IIRC) > because of its slim and efficient elegance. A long while ago, I left > another Window Manager that became a full blown, crappy OS ;) > You could also have chosen fluxbox or other if you just wanted plain slimness. Or xfce if you wanted plain simplicity. The good thing about fvwm is that you can indeed tweak everything to your liking. If you don't like standards, you can continue to use your installation the way it was. If you like standards, you can change your config to use the utils. Would it make sense to change the system config dir from /etc to /setup? Or the home dir from /home to /users? It could, but no one would know where things are if they get to use your computer. Standardization occurred long ago in terms of the base system. I can't see why not to use it in desktop configuration, for things that almost every wm would use. > However, I am open for any improvement as long as it does not kill large > installation bases and allows users to keep and use what they got to > love! In other words: My thanks for fvwm go to the fvwm developers! > > wbr, > Lukas > -- > Lukas Ruf <http://www.lpr.ch> | Ad Personam > rbacs <http://wiki.lpr.ch> | Restaurants, Bars and Clubs > Raw IP <http://www.rawip.org> | Low Level Network Programming > Style <http://email.rawip.org> | How to write emails > >
