It may end up that way, but I think he really wants an extremist to realize 
revenge on the DOJ and media. 

From: Friam <friam-boun...@redfish.com> on behalf of Roger Critchlow 
<r...@elf.org>
Date: Thursday, November 14, 2024 at 8:46 AM
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <friam@redfish.com>
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] signaling 

I think Gaetz is chum. There will be a grand fight, the Senate will feel 
virtuous for standing up to Trump, but they will be less inclined to fight so 
hard against the next clown nominee, and Gaetz will return in another role. 


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On Thu, Nov 14, 2024 at 8:28 AM glen <geprope...@gmail.com 
<mailto:geprope...@gmail.com>> wrote: 

On the brighter side, though:

The Onion Says It Has Bought Infowars, Alex Jones’s Site, Out of Bankruptcy
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/11/14/business/media/alex-jones-infowars-the-onion.html?unlocked_article_code=1.Z04.Wiwi.UMUgUSO1vzUW&smid=url-share
 <_blank>

And:

Jury awards Abu Ghraib detainees $42 million, holds contractor responsible
https://apnews.com/article/abu-ghraib-civil-trial-iraq-virginia-3a2841ec2892fb111b4e26a70e761208
 <_blank>

A friend of mine is abject. I try to console her and fail, almost surely 
because I'm a middle class white man. Her retort always comes back to the idea 
that no matter what the stupid "arc of the moral universe" will eventually do, 
in the meantime many people (some of whom are her personal friends) will suffer 
and die needlessly. I regard this as yet another adverse effect of 
individualism. Yes, individual Americans will suffer more under a[nother] Trump 
admin. But look around, suffering is not the exception. It's the rule. The 
suffering of an individual organism is not merely some hallucinatory side 
effect. It's the mechanism of action, despite what the gaslighting Pinker-esque 
Utopians say or write in their hopium-ridden books and press releases. If an 
individual is *not* suffering (or is delusionally ignoring it), they're part of 
the problem.

So despite the brighter side above, I'll leave us with this one:

At Seattle’s Boeing Field, Real-Time Video Offers a Rare Glimpse of America’s 
Troubled Deportation Flights
https://www.propublica.org/article/seattle-boeing-field-ice-deportation-flights 
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On 11/14/24 04:16, Santafe wrote:
> This article (apologies for paywall; I don’t know how to send an open version)
> https://www.nytimes.com/2024/11/13/opinion/matt-gaetz-attorney-general-trump.html
>  <_blank>
> is another example of missing the point, I think.
> 
> It’s all about messaging, and the campaign of demoralization. The puzzle that 
> the trumper inside-group spends their time on is “What is the loudest way we 
> can say I wipe my ass with your `rule of law’?”
> 
> So it is important to pick the lowest, both in terms of depravity and 
> incompetence, to put as lords over the best, to prove that they can’t get out 
> from under it.
> 
> I don’t think I “feel” anything about this, except that it is very important 
> and I would like to understand the response to it. At the end, only 
> effectiveness gets you back under a living circumstance you consider 
> acceptable.
> 
> Eric


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