I guess. I don’t see much evidence that groups in any way self-correct thanks to this collective reflection. It isn’t even that frustrating. The main take home for me is to simply not to bother communicating. It’s a waste of time.
From: Friam <friam-boun...@redfish.com> on behalf of glen <geprope...@gmail.com> Date: Thursday, August 15, 2024 at 9:54 AM To: friam@redfish.com <friam@redfish.com> Subject: Re: [FRIAM] This makes me think of this list... IDK. It's useful to remind oneself how batshit everyone (including oneself from years ago or years from now) is. It's only frustrating when you're, as Steve put it, high on your own supply. It's funny. At the salon, when I manage to repeat back some batshit perspective one of the participants extruded onto the table, well enough such that the person who extruded the guano honestly believes I "get it" ... my closer friends looking at me like I've been body-snatched, etc. When that happens, I can't help but wonder why these people are all so convinced of their own views. People are just weird. It's not a campaign slogan. It's the truth. On 8/15/24 08:45, Marcus Daniels wrote: > I feel I should scream on Eric’s behalf. > > *From:*Friam <friam-boun...@redfish.com> *On Behalf Of *Santafe > *Sent:* Wednesday, August 14, 2024 9:31 PM > *To:* The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <friam@redfish.com> > *Subject:* Re: [FRIAM] This makes me think of this list... > > Cool. Nepal even has mystical hillsides. > > My colleage The Mystic has informed me that only we (in “the west” in “the > modern era") are degraded and malformed people; all other cultures have > Wisdom Traditions. So any child in one of those Other Cultures already has an > understanding of Reality that all of us Westerners are incapable of achieving > because we grew up in the absence of Wisdom Traditions. It kind of reminds me > of the Krell in whatever film it was. (Forbidden planet?) > > I have often wondered what I am supposed to do with declarations like that > one. I have to accept that it is true, since he has told me that he has an > apprehension of Reality, but that it could not explained to me, because > that’s not how those apprehensions work. Hopefully the Noema mag will provide > further input, when I can get time to read it. > > Eric > > > > On Aug 15, 2024, at 2:38, Roger Critchlow <r...@elf.org <mailto:r...@elf.org > <mailto:r...@elf.org>>> wrote: > > https://www.noemamag.com/exploring-the-boundaries-of-consciousness/ > <https://www.noemamag.com/exploring-the-boundaries-of-consciousness/> > <https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=https%3a%2f%2fwww.noemamag.com%2fexploring-the-boundaries-of-consciousness%2f&c=E,1,JPgTSlb6W5BoLUrZDMDHXpPYcHDxQIowhbHRnbBn9D_s7Owuzgw3iIapMGGo0msXQyFsLwcfkxz5zG4x1AocbX1T_E7qze8Fajc2H8A_rkZ9GB_yCA,,&typo=1 > > <https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=https%3a%2f%2fwww.noemamag.com%2fexploring-the-boundaries-of-consciousness%2f&c=E,1,JPgTSlb6W5BoLUrZDMDHXpPYcHDxQIowhbHRnbBn9D_s7Owuzgw3iIapMGGo0msXQyFsLwcfkxz5zG4x1AocbX1T_E7qze8Fajc2H8A_rkZ9GB_yCA,,&typo=1>> > > Whaddya know, its on topic. > > -- rec -- > > On Wed, Aug 14, 2024 at 2:11 PM Marcus Daniels <mar...@snoutfarm.com > <mailto:mar...@snoutfarm.com <mailto:mar...@snoutfarm.com>>> wrote: > > Claude remarks: > > << Good Soldier Švejk might respond to questions about consciousness and > information determinism with a seemingly irrelevant anecdote, perhaps about a > drunk man convinced his goldfish was controlling his thoughts through > "information in the water." >> > -- ꙮ Mɥǝu ǝlǝdɥɐuʇs ɟᴉƃɥʇ' ʇɥǝ ƃɹɐss snɟɟǝɹs˙ ꙮ -. --- - / ...- .- .-.. .. -.. / -- --- .-. ... . / -.-. --- -.. . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Fridays 9a-12p Friday St. Johns Cafe / Thursdays 9a-12p Zoom https://bit.ly/virtualfriam <https://bit.ly/virtualfriam> to (un)subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com <http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com> FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ <http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/> archives: 5/2017 thru present https://redfish.com/pipermail/friam_redfish.com/ <https://redfish.com/pipermail/friam_redfish.com/> 1/2003 thru 6/2021 http://friam.383.s1.nabble.com/ <http://friam.383.s1.nabble.com/>
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