I doubt there are any hard and fast answers. But my predisposition is, as I've stated before in other contexts, some of us are
more narrative-driven than others. I've known cis-resistant people who don't care, seemingly at all, about where they might land
on a spectrum or not. Most of them don't seem to be hanging on to words like "queer" as an insult, either. But some of
them emphatically *identify* as this or that. We have one gay attendee who absolutely rejects the term "queer" and the
youngsters who "identify" that way are a bit stupid and confused. He's just as narrative driven as they are. It reminds
me of the distinction between "atheist" and "apatheist", those who identify vs. those who just don't care.
If we were to look for answers to gender roles, my target would be the
biological basis of narrativity. Sex would be largely orthogonal.
On 3/3/22 11:33, Marcus Daniels wrote:
So, what's a hypothesis for a strong affinity toward a non-cis gender? I
can see that gender is arbitrary, but why non-arbitrary and the opposite?
Sure, I'd be interested it taking other forms and experiencing life with
different frames and sensors. The imposition of one identity by birth and
society is annoying. But strong preference for one cis or not-cis? Is
gender a real thing, or is it just that people prefer certain kinds of
interactions, and want to signal that through their physical manifestation?
What is different about the non-cis gendered people that is distinct from just
wanting the freedom to be whatever, and not stuck with their assigned gender?
I guess there is some literature on this, but are there any answers yet?
-----Original Message-----
From: Friam <[email protected]> On Behalf Of glen
Sent: Thursday, March 3, 2022 11:03 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] academic freedom
Yes! We had a particularly explosive conversation at the pub salon a couple of weeks ago. The context is that everyone
who attended was easily classified as "liberal", though some leaned pretty far right in some slices of their
culture (guns, hunting, political correctness, etc.). Two of the attendees identify as non-cis, one
"non-binary" and the other "queer". Because we had 2 actual biologists there (both aggressive
arguers), the conflations between sex and gender were rampant. The most vociferously ("gametes are real!")
sex-is-overwhelmingly-binary biologist is, ironically, very lefty, almost socialist.
Nobody was actively trying to shut anyone down. But the more conservative
biologist actively claims the non-binary and queer participants *were* trying
to shut down the biologists and had clearly shut down their reasoning. I
disagree completely. The non-binary and queer participants are extremely robust
people used to, comfortable with, being confronted with all sorts of rhetoric
and physical threats for their entire lives. The *snowflakes* are the 2 white,
well-off, high cognitive power, cis *men* with full-time jobs who are so
invested in their Scientism that they cower like wilted flowers when their
perspective is challenged. (To be clear, their cowering consists of ape-like
chest pounding, posturing ... but it's still an affect of fear.)
Everyone's so sensitive these days. >8^D
On 3/3/22 10:39, Prof David West wrote:
"Academic Freedom" is an issue that I would love to discuss in the tavern
sometime. My side of the conversation would necessarily be personal—based on 25 years as
a professor; ten years at a conservative Catholic University and fifteen years at public
universities in New Mexico.
Lot's of anecdotes about threats—including some that are not typically included in the
discussion, like the Kinko's lawsuit that intimidated universities and prevented fair use
of material that copyright owners did not want included in course
discussions—"bullshit" defenders like the AFA, cases of cowardly
self-censorship, and more.
It was interesting, to me, how often it was the content of my software design courses
that caused problems; e.g., the lecture on "cultural hard coding," with
examples like two values for sex and five for 'race', and last names limited to seven
characters excluding hyphens.
davew
On Thu, Mar 3, 2022, at 8:21 AM, glen wrote:
Here's why I think the Academic Freedom Alliance (and similar things
like the Heterodox Academy) are bullshit [⛧]:
In a defamation lawsuit, the hype around digital health clashes with
scientific criticism
https://www.statnews.com/2022/03/02/health-fertility-thermometer-vall
ey-polis/
There's a *legitimate* case of the expression and defense of academic
freedom. But what's occupying the attention of the "Academic Freedom
Alliance"? [sigh] The suspension of an "anti-Woke" professor from a
Christian propaganda outlet <https://www.cuw.edu>:
https://academicfreedom.org/letter-to-concordia-wisconsin-on-gregory-
schulz/
along with professors facing blowback for "adult child sex" comments,
stances on abortion, "critical race theory", confederate statues, etc.
They (the AFA) may have good intentions to some extent. But by
ignoring actual academics, cases of actual academic freedom, and
focusing on peripherally kinda-sorta academic divisive issues, they
effectively incite the divisions rather than treating them. They're
directly responsible for turning the "academy" into the equivalent of
a Rupert Murdoch gossip rag. Chelsea Polis deserves way more
defensive attention than anyone the AFA is claiming to defend.
[⛧] And I mean bullshit in the technical sense, not false, not true,
but designed to target divisive "culture war" type stuff, designed as
a confidence trick.
--
glen
When elephants fight, it is the grass that suffers.
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