And the tenth is....? Nick Thompson thompnicks...@gmail.com https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/
-----Original Message----- From: Friam <friam-boun...@redfish.com> On Behalf Of u?l? ?>$ Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2021 12:45 PM To: friam@redfish.com Subject: Re: [FRIAM] we are lost Nah. Irony is more than a guilty pleasure. It's a crucial tool in the authentication toolbox. That becomes obvious when considering gate keeping between subcultures. It's easy to assume such gate keeping is bad. Hyper-democrats make such assumptions all the time. But gate keeping is simply a form of establishing us vs. them. And it's not merely binary, either. There are scales to irony. When you express a layered irony, based on the feedback from it, you can distinguish Them from Tourists from Ally from Us. This is, essentially, [Counter ]Intelligence 101. As for what categories want, there's a perfectly non-teleological connotation of "want" that we could have used to respond to Roger's question, that hooks almost like lock and key, or hand in glove, to the recent thread(s) on duality. But, again, "know 10 things. say 9." On 10/28/21 11:29 AM, thompnicks...@gmail.com wrote: > On 10/28/21 7:17 AM, Marcus Daniels wrote: >> >>> So, not only do we attribute teleology to inanimate objects, weather, >>> animals, and people, but also to the platonic solids. Which probably leads >>> to: >>> >>> What do categories want? >> >> Love, recognition and safety? Someone phone HR and get the ball rolling on >> a new policy! >> > > Spoken from the high perch of Irony. Irony is like wormwood, delightful in > small doses but ultimately toxic. Do we not all want love, recognition, and > safety? Do we also want excitement and challenge. Go figure! Some of us > crave more of the one; some more of the other. Given the contradiction > between those things, can we expect the right balance be guaranteed for each > and every one of us, for all time? No. Of course not. But is that reason > to mock human striving toward these goals? Or to mock Utilitarian attempts > to facilitate their achievement? No. I don’t think so. Irony is a guilty > pleasure. Even though I use it and enjoy it, I have to admit that it is a an > abdication and fails as a policy. > -- "Better to be slapped with the truth than kissed with a lie." ☤>$ uǝlƃ .-- .- -. - / .- -.-. - .. --- -. ..--.. / -.-. --- -. .--- ..- --. .- - . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn UTC-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam un/subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ archives: 5/2017 thru present https://redfish.com/pipermail/friam_redfish.com/ 1/2003 thru 6/2021 http://friam.383.s1.nabble.com/ .-- .- -. - / .- -.-. - .. --- -. ..--.. / -.-. --- -. .--- ..- --. .- - . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn UTC-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam un/subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ archives: 5/2017 thru present https://redfish.com/pipermail/friam_redfish.com/ 1/2003 thru 6/2021 http://friam.383.s1.nabble.com/
