On 9/15/21 3:46 AM, uǝlƃ ☤>$ wrote: > Well, I love Rebecca (and the rest of the hard-nosed skeptics) who regularly > trashes things like homeopathy > (https://skepchick.org/2021/09/us-politicians-want-less-regulations-on-snake-oil-medicine-during-a-pandemic/). > But there's some confusion around "placebo" versus "non-specific" effects. > This is especially true when the application of something like an "essential > oil" or other tincture is _ritualized_. Trying to channel Dave, I would say > that even if the tincture is diluted to nothing, its role as a ceremonial > talisman might be critical to the non-specific effect induced, much like the > white lab coat effect.
in my attempt to be succinct I missed a key point. You suggested topical application as a way to "learn to fly" and I tripped on the popular name "fly agaric". I'm in agreement with the value of ritualizing (most anything) to enhance (define) it's effects. > > And even though this is tangential to cancel culture and hammering down the > nails that stick out, tangential doesn't mean inappropriate or > ill-fit-to-purpose. When some aliberal lefty shuts me down at the pub for > saying something off-the-cuff-misogynist to Renee', both my misstatement and > the lefty's shutdown are *real* things, to be respected, not to be ignored. > It's part of the contextual milieu we swim around in. > > What I find funny is the reaction I get from such people when they see that I > do take them seriously. It's amazing how an ordinary person reacts when > someone, like a clinician, actually sits down, listens to the patient's > in-context narrative, and engages ... something a Hopi friend of mine once > called "good medicine". > > On 9/14/21 4:39 PM, Steve Smith wrote: >> Regarding your /muscaria/fly agaric/ aspirations, I'm hearing something more >> like homeopathy or law-of-similars since the "fly" in /fly agaric/ comes >> from etymologically the habit of using it to poison flies by infusing it in >> milk to attract flies. Maybe this is entirely a tangent (most of my >> observations here *are* tangents?). > - .... . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. .... . .-. . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn GMT-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam un/subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ archives: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/
