But you also gamed this proposition:

< That memory of lost opportunities is what we call free will.  >

Many people apparently believe they can defy their programming and think it is 
reasonable to expect people to do the same.   But punishing the sin and the 
sinner are the same, and it only matters if the "trace" ever can be exercised 
again.  

Marcus

On 6/16/20, 10:52 AM, "Friam on behalf of glen∉ℂ" <[email protected] 
on behalf of [email protected]> wrote:

    That's exactly what I said. Thanks for repeating it in your own words!

    On 6/16/20 8:40 AM, Marcus Daniels wrote:
    > We could build a simulation of it, and the simulation won't be able to 
defy its programming.

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